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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: bastienguerry@googlemail.com, ams@gnu.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: message-mode is now default?
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:59:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k525mfo7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1MSO9K-00030v-Go@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:37:22 -0400")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>     This is a development branch.  Breakage should be expected.
>
> The supposed argument for this change was that Message mode was a
> compatible extension of Mail mode.  Now that someone listed dozens of
> incompatibilities, this response seems to disregard the fact that that
> argument is not valid.

The argument is not invalid.  In the most important senses -- the
general UI and method of operation -- message-mode is very much
compatible.  There are clearly details where the two modes differ, but
the list of "incompatibilities" are all basically trivial (and easily
fixed) or simply silly (WTF cares if the generated buffer names are
different?  We could easily change them, but we _shouldn't_ because
message-mode actually uses far more useful buffer names).

Of course, the most important audience affected by the default setting
-- novice/casual users -- simply won't care or even notice 99% of the
issues mentioned.

There are clearly things that need to be ironed out, so we should iron
them out.

The hook situation seems one of the more important issues; is anybody
going to comment on my suggestion for merging the hooks?

-Miles

-- 
Hers, pron. His.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-19  4:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-17 12:43 message-mode is now default? Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:41   ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-18  8:59     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 14:14   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-17 15:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-17 20:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18  8:59     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18  0:29   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-18  1:19     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-18  5:51       ` Bastien
2009-07-18  6:52         ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-07-18 13:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 11:41           ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 12:32             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Sven Joachim
2009-07-19 17:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 18:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-22  7:35             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-22 18:46               ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Reiner Steib
2009-07-23  3:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-23  5:03                   ` Miles Bader
2009-08-03 19:57           ` message-mode is now default? Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-04  6:12             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18 13:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-18 14:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18 15:11             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 15:33               ` David Kastrup
2009-07-18 15:44                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-18 16:44                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 18:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19  0:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-19  9:09                 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:52                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:10                   ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 11:16                   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-19 14:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 12:33                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-20 13:29                       ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-20 14:20                         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-20 16:32                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-21  9:05                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-22  3:00                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 15:32                         ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 17:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-21  9:05                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-21 10:13                       ` Miles Bader
2009-07-23 13:46                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19  4:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-19 17:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 23:21               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19  4:59             ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-07-19 23:21               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-20 16:46               ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-20 20:42                 ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19  8:07           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19  9:32             ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:24               ` Bastien
2009-07-19 10:52               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:56                 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode - sending mail (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib

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