From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Source Code Formatting Standard Update Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:57:50 +0900 Message-ID: <87k4zz0z6p.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <200909142100.13471.jyqvklioo@googlemail.com> <200909161356.26676.jyqvklioo@googlemail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253109517 31531 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2009 13:58:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jyqvklioo@googlemail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 15:58:29 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mnv1h-00029g-3p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:58:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50647 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mnv1g-0003ZT-LG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnurH-0004Ur-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnurD-0004Rv-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:47:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40943 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnurD-0004Rq-Op for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:60714) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnurD-0007d0-9D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:47:39 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C521535A8; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:47:33 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4C0311F622; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:57:50 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <200909161356.26676.jyqvklioo@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 02b7c7189041+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115390 Archived-At: jyqvklioo@googlemail.com writes: > I plea that the Standard be amended so that the { placement for the > start of a body of a non-enclosed function is consistent with use > otherwise. -1 No thank you. Good standards are good, bad standards are bad, changing standards are the worst. There is no strong reason to change on the table, so let's not. If you don't like the GNU standard, don't adopt it in your own projects. At the start of a new cooperative project, argue for what you consider a more rational standard. However, projects that have followed it for a long time, including the whole GNU project, should continue to do so unless a strong technical reason for changing can be advanced. A little bit of extra work for automatic formatters and those who write them is not such a reason. > The increased consistency will also make it possible to have > simpler implementations of automatic formatting software. What could be simpler than to just let Emacs do it?