From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo (was: Autoload from a web page?) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:14:36 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87k4w5lbyb.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> References: <878wclke6j.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262121363 32041 80.91.229.12 (29 Dec 2009 21:16:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jonas , elpa@tromey.com To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 22:15:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NPjQ3-0005bQ-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33726 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPjQ3-00029B-RR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPjPN-0001qY-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPjPI-0001nv-6p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36861 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPjPI-0001no-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:08 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:47539) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPjPH-0007Eb-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:15:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NPjPB-00057o-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:01 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:01 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YEsYIXG3zoQaG5+7neVWD+SsjBw= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118986 Archived-At: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:46:15 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> This is just a suggestion: considering that Emacs has moved to a RS> powerful DVCS, maybe it makes sense to make ELPA and emacsmirror.org RS> hook into the Emacs repo. Give commit bits and some structure to a few RS> people within an isolated "unsupported packages" area, and then let them RS> organize that area and the interfaces to it, including tracking of RS> foreign packages and repos, any way they see fit. As long as it's clear RS> that it's an area for unsupported packages, this has the benefit of RS> integrating Emacs with the packages people find useful. RS> This might be a good idea, but we want to get copyright assignments for RS> these packages just as we do for the "supported" parts of Emacs. RS> That way we can move Lisp files between the two categories based on RS> practical motives. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Promotion could work like Apache's incubation process or like Haskell's hackage system, or in another way more suited to Emacs' model. I think we should also consider demotion for packages that should not be supported but are still marginally useful. I hope Tom Tromey and Jonas Bernoulli are interested in participating too, and that the Emacs maintainers are willing to give this a try. FWIW I will help any way I can and I think it would really improve the Emacs user experience to install unsupported packages easily. Ted