From: Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:06:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k4v1vz5f.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sk9prvnd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:35:34 +0200")
Hi Eli,
>> As many emacs youngsters, I feel that emacs really uses too much
>> home-made code. Surprisingly, Emacs does not benefit that much from
>> the free software ecosystem.
Eli> That's a pretty general assessment. Any data points other than the
Eli> display engine?
Emacs Lisp and all the librairies that emacs hackers had to implement on
top of it, IOW the 'emacs lisp standard library'.
Since 80ies, many languages appeared, and many of them meet very well
the requirements to extend a text editor. And because they are
general-purpose language, they do much more. Designing a language,
implementing it, maintaining it, providing a large and up to date
standard library, is a project on its own. Scheme, Ruby or Python come
to mind. The latters, at least, come with extensive support to parsing,
file operations, networking and so on.
Eli> "Big job" is an understatement of the century. Most of these
Eli> "generic free software fragments" are not written with Emacs
Eli> peculiar requirements in mind, and don't have a Lisp API.
Yes you are right. I'm mostly thinking loud how could be designed emacs
in today landscape.
--
Paul
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Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-28 0:19 redisplay system of emacs alin.s
2010-01-28 4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 9:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 11:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 14:10 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-28 15:04 ` alin.s
2010-01-28 22:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:04 ` Paul R
2010-01-29 10:17 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 10:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:30 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 11:03 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:10 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 10:48 ` Paul R
2010-01-29 11:01 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 13:06 ` Paul R [this message]
2010-01-29 13:10 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:28 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-29 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 18:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 19:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31 9:32 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-31 12:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-29 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30 18:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 10:34 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2010-01-30 10:52 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 13:07 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-28 5:10 ` Ken Hori
2010-01-28 12:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-28 13:41 ` alin.s
2010-01-28 14:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-12 8:31 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-12 13:41 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:49 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 13:30 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:25 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 14:37 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:53 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 15:11 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 15:31 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-12 15:55 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 16:53 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 18:55 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-14 19:13 ` alin.s
2010-02-17 13:14 ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-23 0:45 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-02-23 3:01 ` David Reitter
2010-02-23 3:34 ` Tom Tromey
2010-02-23 14:31 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-05 22:53 ` Concurrency (was: redisplay system of emacs) Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05 22:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-03-11 14:18 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-25 16:49 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-26 17:10 ` Concurrency Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 19:37 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-27 3:00 ` Concurrency Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-27 13:33 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 18:18 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-28 19:40 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-28 20:03 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-28 20:25 ` Concurrency Davis Herring
2010-03-28 20:54 ` Concurrency Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-28 23:18 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 10:04 ` Concurrency Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-29 15:37 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-29 16:16 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 16:36 ` Concurrency Ken Raeburn
2010-03-29 17:41 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 16:33 ` Concurrency Ken Raeburn
2010-03-29 16:58 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-29 17:46 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 17:37 ` Concurrency Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-29 18:21 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-28 21:19 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-28 21:22 ` Concurrency Daniel Colascione
2010-03-28 23:20 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 2:18 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-28 21:17 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-29 16:25 ` Concurrency Ken Raeburn
2010-03-29 16:49 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-03-29 17:39 ` Concurrency Stefan Monnier
2010-03-31 17:13 ` gsoc for concurrent Emacs? (was: Concurrency) Ted Zlatanov
2010-04-01 9:45 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-28 21:04 ` Concurrency Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-03-28 21:25 ` Concurrency Daniel Colascione
2010-03-29 2:20 ` Concurrency Tom Tromey
2010-02-14 19:25 ` redisplay system of emacs alin.s
2010-02-16 16:40 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-16 19:20 ` grischka
2010-02-16 19:55 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-02-17 13:56 ` alin.s
2010-02-16 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-16 20:56 ` grischka
2010-02-17 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-29 19:48 grischka
2010-01-30 5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 9:53 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:08 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:54 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 12:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:11 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30 13:42 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 13:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-30 13:54 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 15:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 15:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-31 12:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-31 16:36 ` grischka
2010-02-01 21:06 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 3:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-02 21:21 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 21:42 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 0:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03 6:45 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 13:34 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 14:15 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-02-04 11:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 2:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 12:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-04 11:00 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-05 12:44 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 18:37 ` grischka
2010-02-03 13:34 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 17:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 17:45 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 18:35 ` grischka
2010-02-03 18:36 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-02-03 19:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03 20:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-03 20:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-04 8:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 5:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 11:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:38 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-05 19:08 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 12:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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