From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: emacs -Q doesn't fit on the user's screen Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:20 -0500 Message-ID: <87k4v03m2j.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4B5E9209.1070208@swipnet.se> <877hr486t9.fsf@jidanni.org> <4B5FDB52.9020300@swipnet.se> <878wbj6k77.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4B613A3F.8070601@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264785241 11850 80.91.229.12 (29 Jan 2010 17:14:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3643@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 29 18:13:57 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NauPd-0000nJ-BI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:13:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60372 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NauPb-0002HF-DI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:13:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NauES-0003ED-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:02:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NauEN-0003D7-M0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:02:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34270 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NauEM-0003D0-T9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:02:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:36225) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NauEK-0005cJ-Uf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:02:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Natt3-0006jq-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:40:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Natq9-0003MV-Mh; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:37:01 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126478298912908 (code B ref 3643); Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2010 16:36:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Natpa-0003M8-Sc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.124]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NatpZ-0003M3-GM for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:25 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014123.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0TGaKI0020216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4060C05D; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:36:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:06:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:37:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34800 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > So I think Emacs should try to do a better job choosing a default size, > based on the screen size, such that the default size (including WM > decorations) is not larger than the screen. I think a good interim solution is to change the default font from Monospace-12 to Monospace-10. On most monitors, Monospace-12 is far too large to be usable (10 is the default in Gnome installations IIUC), and 40 lines of 12-point text cause the Emacs frame to increase past the height of most desktop areas. WDYT?