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From: Stefan Kamphausen <skampi@gmx.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Failing to see the allure of Emacs
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:59:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k4t4k1ob.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: df2194df-0041-4105-940e-dad55ceaec35@30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com

Hi,

Daniel <unagimiyagi@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I started learning emacs 48 hours ago.  The motivation for this was to
> be able to do programming and general computing tasks through just
> emacs.  I've seen the wizards who are just doing all kinds of crazy
> stuff--quickly.  I am not sure what the benefit is now, though, after
> going through the tutorial.

the tutorial will only get you going.  From there on it's a long
journey.  But beware, somewhere down the path you may pass the point of
no return.  For me all other IDEs are basically unusable for my daily
work, mainly because their editors suck so much. 

>
> Yes, I can edit text files and python files and java files no
> problem.  And I have no doubt that I'll get faster. But I thought that
> I would never have to leave the emacs terminal window.

I leave it all the time, I even keep a few terminal windows open,
although I can M-x shell.


[...]

> But again, did I expect too much out of emacs?  So far I find it to be
> about as good as BBEdit . It's a text editor but no more.  I expected
> emacs to be the one program that ruled them all.

Just a few things that I have in Emacs and don't find in other
editors...

M-x describe-mode (C-h m)
    Tell me what is available right here and now, context sensitive

M-x describe-key (C-h k)
    What happens when I press that key...

M-x view-lossage (C-h l)
    Huh? I mistyped and something strange happened.  This will tell you,
    what.

M-x where-is (C-h w)
    Find keybinding for a command

M-x apropos (C-h a)
    there was that command, named something like... uh, what was it?
    ... 

M-x mark-sexp (C-M-Space)
    Mark "logical" parts, intelligent for many, many modes.

M-x transpose-chars (C-t)
             -lines (C-x C-t)
             -sexps (C-M-t)
             -words (M-t)
    well, ... transpose things.

M-x upcase-
    downcase-
    capitalize-word

M-x fill-paragraph (M-q)
    Honestly, how can people format plain text without this??

M-x indent-for-tab-command (usually TAB)
    Emacs is the only editor I've ever used that gets indentation
    right. 

M-x grep
M-x occur
M-x anything (addon)
M-x locate


... to name but a few.  I can't really tell all things, because my
fingers have their own brain ;-)



Kind regards,
Stefan
-- 
a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand)
You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust.
user=> (clojure-buch (Locale/GERMANY))
#<URL http://www.clojure-buch.de>


      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-21 19:02 Failing to see the allure of Emacs Daniel
2010-03-21 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2010-03-21 20:47 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-03-21 21:00 ` akaiser
2010-03-21 21:26   ` Daniel
2010-03-21 22:16     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-03-22  4:05       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-03-21 22:21   ` David Kastrup
2010-03-23 17:22     ` akaiser
2010-03-23 17:52       ` Jeff Clough
2010-03-23 19:10         ` akaiser
2010-03-23 19:32       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-03-23 23:00       ` David Kastrup
2010-03-24 21:40         ` Tim X
2010-03-24 22:00         ` akaiser
2010-03-25  0:28           ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-25  1:03           ` Jay Belanger
2010-03-25  1:27           ` despen
2010-03-25  8:42           ` Tim X
2010-03-25  9:19             ` akaiser
2010-03-25 10:01               ` David Kastrup
2010-03-25 10:09                 ` akaiser
2010-03-27 20:59               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2010-04-07  5:36                 ` David Kastrup
2010-03-25  9:41             ` akaiser
2010-03-25 12:17               ` Tim Landscheidt
2010-03-25 12:24                 ` akaiser
2010-05-04 19:03                   ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.28.1272999835.29092.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-05-05  7:15                     ` David Kastrup
2010-05-05 20:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 12:45               ` Jay Belanger
2010-03-25 18:31               ` Uday S Reddy
2010-03-25 14:07           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-25 14:49             ` David Kastrup
2010-03-26  4:14           ` Galen Boyer
2010-05-05 17:27           ` Joel J. Adamson
2010-03-21 21:02 ` Jeff Clough
2010-03-21 22:09   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-03-21 22:35     ` B. T. Raven
2010-03-21 22:45       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-03-22  0:21         ` Jeff Clough
2010-03-22  4:45           ` B. T. Raven
2010-05-22  2:38       ` Joseph Brenner
2010-03-21 22:58     ` John Bokma
2010-04-20 13:04   ` Jim Diamond
2010-04-20 17:15     ` Andreas Politz
2010-04-20 17:34       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-21 14:26       ` Jim Diamond
2010-04-20 17:36     ` Glenn Morris
2010-04-21 14:31       ` Jim Diamond
2010-04-21 18:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-22 15:27           ` Uday S Reddy
2010-04-20 22:37     ` Tim X
2010-03-21 22:41 ` despen
2010-03-22 11:59 ` Stefan Kamphausen [this message]

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