From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Composing Hebrew diacriticals Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:20:27 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124588 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 17:49:35 +0200 >> >> Uh, with the current version of Emacs >> >> GNU Emacs 24.0.50.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0) of 2010-05-05 on lola >> >> I tried some copy&paste of Yiddish text including diacriticals into >> Emacs, with the result that without bidi-display-reordering set, the >> diacriticals were not composed with the letters, and with >> bidi-display-reordering set, they were composed just fine. > > Please show a recipe to reproduce this. Compositions with reordering > is something that wasn't coded yet (I think that's what Handa-san > works on now), so I'm not sure how this could work. In any case, > compositions without reordering ought to work. Copy and paste from into a buffer. Pasting the language is called לשון־אַשכּנז (loshn-ashkenaz with bidi-display-reordering unset, I get --=-=-= Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Screenshot.png Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAALUAAAAzBAMAAAAjlFRfAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAABhQTFRFJg8H EhkrAC+HjTQChZuznt75+NmY/f/8AfA1zgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAACxMAAAsTAQCa nBgAAAAHdElNRQfaBQYHDQ+ypDAcAAABhUlEQVRYw+3W0U7DIBQG4APpC5i0b+CyW+oTNBlL30Bu MdV7k07O63sOFAZd1Wis8YJebB0tH/Q/sA1wt+MVql3tale72n9nv/2+PXfh3clq72pDaxCVOEUb 6OjQHt2DoXHoXVJT53pD52n46UCfLAjuyxMTHXdcTcuChgNdG2CxUWt9Wtlanxle28+a+/oWLYzT qi1tBegFtN21cY524+3QJtf2mCdI15w0W7YacbqxJc7t1XbCZDad9oVNg91USlG60lCYc2ZbfuKp TWP4znBUY7QdwT3Pkh5umc6t7RRQvlja/HBUpzGkunRRp1QqqlobVX59Mps2Z0JHadO00bYjhvqF Lk4+qmO0hY5p+BEu+Jld5s1Py9mGdRdtP+R1C4T7U/0+sl/KdeLvZ3tqMLdnmdkuhJ+8LdtCOzTF +l7se82J57brUy31QInjJa3vix42bbg75/sy2qE9t1MoVEu/IW3Y00HZsL/+bfj5F8x3bcphN1uB MHvZ9T9Etatd7Wr/E/sdnr0ADfztUOEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= --=-=-= and with it being set, I get --=-=-= Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Screenshot-1.png Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAJUAAAAkBAMAAAByGmWsAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAABhQTFRFJg0G ERYoAC6HjTQCgpmwm935+NqZ/f/8JPiJmwAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAACxMAAAsTAQCa nBgAAAAHdElNRQfaBQYHDgLnOB9iAAABU0lEQVRIx+3VXW6DMAwAYAf1AKuU3KAor7ATINUVR8hr pHCASWjx9WcTQAlj2h/ay0A8BGp/dVxDgQ47XuC0/sp63bVa9wMqVv/TGkEvlgew7dVRBLg+JDjU 5C0FI2sPynkrCxufXaw4CMCUVqM5KF0Nd9UPHWcidpVbLV7wOSAWFiHivbQkcLHI12vtU1qw5Hui xuY3xaJ4keuxtEZNce0XF0H8pVkatWx5s7Eq4rQdy2S9F4uSFWpuCX/AZ2yqlLpY3MCkyD4+taIZ 66hAT1WOlwZsZj2pXjop7XBfqavnuhSm7vk6VJRZup8ji7L2+kVZv0jmYVq6fI80p5Rzuf0dt1Zs Uw2NLa2g321xM18ShsgR83whgk53g8msG3bcsT0rm3uJBWAFQD1k+pV2yZrTkjU9FbvWdw5vf/0u ROyPssb1GT6griP3eP4/ntZpfWi9ARnOg2n5/oo8AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC --=-=-= As you can see, the aleph is composed with the "a" vowel underneath, and the kaph gets a dagesh. So there clearly happens some composition. Whether GTK+ is involved, I have no idea. -- David Kastrup --=-=-=--