From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: No ChangeLog's (was: bzr send workflow) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:11:15 +0900 Message-ID: <87k4nj6p98.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87occvzosg.fsf@bnikolic.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282464886 32550 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2010 08:14:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bojan@bnikolic.co.uk, Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 22 10:14:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On5hQ-0008VI-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:14:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55689 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1On5hP-0005gI-MU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:14:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51232 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1On5hG-0005g5-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On5hF-0003Y7-M0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.254.161]:53061) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1On5hE-0003X2-1D; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:14:28 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EAAF4004; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:14:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.224]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043BFF4003; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:14:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002F6970304; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:14:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 113741A2C38; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:11:15 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129013 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > What do we do instead when there are no ChangeLog files? You keep a temporary ChangeLog file, just not under version control. More complex workflows could use the "pipeline" or "loom" plugins, which I think have features for keeping track of log messages while development proceeds. > Are there any commands that let us edit log messages for future > commits, keep their record, and use them conveniently when the time > comes to commit? This sounds like job for Emacs to me. The basic workflow for a commit is 1. move relevant log entry to .msg 2. bzr commit --file=.msg # assumes commitables already bzr add'ed 3. rm .msg I suspect that a simple command that 1. looks for a ChangeLog if not found, edits .msg directly, then does 2 and 3 of the basic workflow 2. marks the top log entry 3. asks for confirmation y/n if not confirmed, drop into a recursive edit allowing user to mark a different log entry or perhaps edit it, then confirm with C-c C-c 4. do 1, 2, and 3 of the basic workflow above might be a good UI that could even be added to vc.el.