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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: gnutls-devel@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs core TLS support
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:12:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k4m92fuq.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87eicn2upl.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:37:42 +0200 Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> wrote: 

SJ> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> +(defconst gnutls-version "0.3.1")
>> +                               "/tmp/ca.pem"

SJ> This should be removed.

Done.

>> +         (priority-string (or priority-string
>> +                              (cond
>> +                               ((eq credentials 'gnutls-anon)
>> +                                "PERFORMANCE:+ANON-DH:!ARCFOUR-128")
>> +                               ((eq credentials 'gnutls-x509pki)
>> +                                "PERFORMANCE"))))

SJ> I think NORMAL should be used instead of PERFORMANCE here.

Done.

>> +(defun open-ssl-stream (name buffer host service)
>> +  "Open a SSL connection for a service to a host.

SJ> I suggest using 'TLS' or possibly 'SSL/TLS' consistently in
SJ> documentation.  

OK, but let's get the code working first.

SJ> Is 'open-ssl-stream' for backwards compatibility?  Otherwise I
SJ> suggest 'open-tls-stream'.

Yes, it's trying to be compatible.  I'd rather get rid of the
compatibility but we'll see.

>> +;; (open-ssl-stream "tls" "tls-buffer" "yourserver.com" "https")

SJ> Looks like debug code that should be removed?

Please let it be for now.  It's useful for quick testing.

>> +PRIORITY-STRING is as per the GnuTLS docs.

SJ> Maybe there could be an info hyperlink here?

Sorry, you mean to the GnuTLS webserver?  I don't know if that's
necessary.

>> +    (gnutls-message-maybe
>> +     (setq ret (gnutls-boot proc priority-string credentials credentials-file))
>> +     "boot: %s")

SJ> How much debug code do we want to retain?  I'm not sure.

For now, as much as possible.  We can always turn it down later.

>> +DEFUN ("gnutls-global-init", Fgnutls_global_init,
>> +       Sgnutls_global_init, 0, 0, 0,
>> +       doc: /* Initializes global GNU TLS state to defaults.
>> +Call `gnutls-global-deinit' when GNU TLS usage is no longer needed.
>> +Returns zero on success.  */)
SJ> ...
>> +DEFUN ("gnutls-global-deinit", Fgnutls_global_deinit,
>> +       Sgnutls_global_deinit, 0, 0, 0,
>> +       doc: /* Deinitializes global GNU TLS state.
>> +See also `gnutls-global-init'.  */)

SJ> I think this shouldn't be exposed to Elisp, Emacs startup code could
SJ> initialize GnuTLS directly.

OK, done.

>> +DEFUN ("gnutls-boot", Fgnutls_boot, Sgnutls_boot, 3, 6, 0,
>> +       doc: /* Initializes client-mode GnuTLS for process PROC.
>> +Currently only client mode is supported.  Returns a success/failure
>> +value you can check with `gnutls-errorp'.
>> +
>> +PRIORITY_STRING is a string describing the priority.
>> +TYPE is either `gnutls-anon' or `gnutls-x509pki'.
>> +TRUSTFILE is a PEM encoded trust file for `gnutls-x509pki'.
>> +KEYFILE is ... for `gnutls-x509pki' (TODO).
>> +CALLBACK is ... for `gnutls-x509pki' (TODO).

SJ> Two comments here: 1) The name is a bit generic..?

Well, "init" is taken and I have a small vocabulary :)

SJ> 2) The design makes it a bit difficult to support multiple
SJ> credentials.  The GnuTLS API allows clients to have several
SJ> credentials (X.509, OpenPGP, etc).  Perhaps copying the GnuTLS API
SJ> further is more flexible.

I thought of making it more flexible but I really want to get the basic
case working.  As I mentioned earlier I think GnuTLS should consider
further extending the idea of priority strings to a full configuration
(credentials especially) in a single string or file.  That would make
using it so much easier from Emacs Lisp.

I tried to figure out the TLS handshake problem but it has stumped me.
It's taken me many hours and I still don't know what I'm missing so, as
I mentioned in my other message, I've checked in my current state to let
others take a look.  If you or other GnuTLS developers can help, it
would be greatly appreciated.  Once the handshake works I will work on
the other improvements you mentioned and on getting the GnuTLS support
into Gnus and other parts of Emacs.

Thanks
Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-26  6:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-13 21:53 Emacs core TLS support Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-13 23:46 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-14 14:09   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-14 15:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 16:38       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-29 19:59         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-12 23:00           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-13 11:04             ` James Cloos
2010-08-13 15:07               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-13 15:51                 ` Julien Danjou
2010-08-13 16:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-13 15:53                 ` David Kastrup
2010-08-13 16:11                   ` Julien Danjou
2010-08-13 15:57                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-13 17:25                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-14  0:15                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-09-05  4:57                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05  8:06                         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-05 22:47                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-06  7:47                           ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-06 14:31                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-06 15:53                             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-06 17:18                             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-09 15:12                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-09 22:00                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-10  8:33                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-09-10 10:59                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-10 14:06                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-11 12:45                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-14 15:34                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-06 21:00                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-06 23:13                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-11 14:59                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-11 15:00                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-12 10:58                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-14 15:45                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-13  7:49                                   ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2010-09-14 18:30                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-14 18:55                                       ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2010-09-14 19:10                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-15 11:20                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15  1:25                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15 11:01                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-15 12:13                                       ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2010-09-15 15:40                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-26  6:09                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-26 15:32                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-26 21:50                                           ` James Cloos
2010-09-27 13:37                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 13:56                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:03                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:11                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:21                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:40                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:56                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-27 15:13                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 15:02                                                     ` Bruce Stephens
2010-09-27 15:07                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 15:18                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 15:11                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-27 15:14                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 14:42                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-29 12:53                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 13:25                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 18:36                                                       ` Jason Earl
2010-09-29 20:05                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-29 20:32                                                           ` Jason Earl
2010-09-29 20:35                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 21:33                                                               ` Jason Earl
2010-09-29 17:06                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-29 17:44                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-29 18:43                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-29 18:43                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-03 14:21                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-03 14:48                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-03 22:37                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-04  1:23                                                             ` final GnuTLS API! (was: Emacs core TLS support) Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04 10:49                                                               ` final GnuTLS API! Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-04 14:44                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-27 14:36                                             ` Emacs core TLS support Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-27 18:25                                               ` James Cloos
2010-09-27 18:45                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-27 19:07                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-27 19:38                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-21 11:37                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2010-09-26  6:12                                         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2010-09-30 10:10                                           ` Simon Josefsson
2010-10-04  3:42                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-04  6:24                                               ` Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
2010-08-13 13:54             ` Leo
2010-08-13 14:50               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-14 19:20                 ` Leo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-14  1:37 MON KEY

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