From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: c/c++ project management and debugging Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:48:42 +0100 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87k4j2uohx.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <4D0F4058.6050101@gmail.com> <038dfa58-3e80-4c49-bbd0-c1bbb16c41f1@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> <87bp4ex0a4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <7e99bd12-91df-4cc2-bfc9-576df4c5283b@i18g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293014634 25426 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2010 10:43:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:43:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 11:43:50 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVMAc-0002vk-Pj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:43:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PVMAb-0006y9-Tj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 05:43:46 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Trace: individual.net bEmBitX53o4DsI9Kwv15Tw9eYthq9bJ0tpz8YqJ0tc3i4GIrY+ Cancel-Lock: sha1:NjI5MDU1NmMzZjFlYTZiZWU1Yjc4OWQ0ZjRmMmEzZmY2MmQ0MmU2Yw== sha1:8s8kyjATyHQWTq/0dv2y5x/u4IA= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:183533 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:77777 Archived-At: Elena writes: > Moreover, when your heavily customized Emacs start to "misbehave" what > can you do? Start "emacs -Q" and begin evaluating sexps. Oh, what an > advanced debugging aid! Contrarily to IDEs, emacs has a true debugger, and a true REPL, and a whole lisp development environment. The fact that emacs is sometimes heavily customized says something very bad about IDEs: they cannot be customized easily! > Come on, Pascal, IDEs have something to teach. Yes. That they're to be flown away as fast as you can. They should also recall to those who forgot it, that humans are persons who process the verb. Our brains are hard wired for speach, to listen, to speak, and to read and write. This is what distinguish us from animals. A graphical user interface letting you build "sentences" from icons may be good and nice for chimps who lack the neurons to process the verb, but for us it's easier to just talk or write. (And if we must compare the civilization and technological output, I'd say that it's way more powerful too!). -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.