From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:37:37 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87k4g9x5hq.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ei6mz24h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <20110306072147.GA11067@event-horizon.homenet> <871v2i525h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <20110308004724.GA1952@event-horizon.homenet> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299580732 3560 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2011 10:38:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:38:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 11:38:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PwuJP-0002MD-6d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:38:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56704 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PwuJ5-0004ju-Gl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:38:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56706 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PwuIy-0004gR-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:38:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PwuIf-0007Zn-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:37:58 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:41923) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PwuIf-0007ZU-P1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:37:57 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PwuIc-00027e-LQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:37:54 +0100 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:37:54 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:37:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QlSBpOh3DDrfSibvJBdwVYMEIw8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136884 Archived-At: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:47:27 -0800 Mike Mattie wrote: MM> As far as error-handling goes grail does shine a bit in that errors within MM> a file are trapped, meaning that mistakes in one file does not cause the MM> entire configuration to abort leading to a --debug-init situtation. In this MM> regard Grail is extremely robust. That sounds useful indeed. MM> I am seriously considering how to add the kind of functionality you want to MM> Grail. I would like to add it to broaden the usefullness of Grail. I do not MM> like the idea of hacking another load-path 'ish variable into Emacs when simply MM> adding elisp to manage load-path is an option. Two similar variables is simply MM> bad design. Maybe you could provide separate packages: grail-loader, grail-load-dir (the snippets directory), and grail-modules (the current Grail modules like keys.el). Then users can choose which layout they prefer and still get the benefit of a safe loader. Or perhaps grail-load-dir can simply be part of grail-loader. Ted