From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nix Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The emacs_backtrace "feature" Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:29:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87k3vjkbux.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> References: <83lig3yaci.fsf@gnu.org> <505CC1FA.4070300@cs.ucla.edu> <83fw6akz67.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4psopo9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ehlso7uj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874nmolaht.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87a9wgnhgs.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348478991 32296 80.91.229.3 (24 Sep 2012 09:29:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert , Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 11:29:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TG4zC-0006Wp-SL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:29:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53527 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG4z7-0002m9-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:29:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42459) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG4z2-0002Xr-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG4yw-0006CV-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from icebox.esperi.org.uk ([81.187.191.129]:55180 helo=mail.esperi.org.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TG4yq-0006Aq-7y; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from spindle.srvr.nix (nix@spindle.srvr.nix [192.168.14.15]) by mail.esperi.org.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8O9TQ5C027144; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:29:27 +0100 Emacs: featuring the world's first municipal garbage collector! In-Reply-To: <87a9wgnhgs.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 24 Sep 2012 14:00:03 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-URT-Metrics: spindle 1060; Body=5 Fuz1=5 Fuz2=5 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 81.187.191.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153509 Archived-At: On 24 Sep 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull verbalised: > Nix writes: > > > Those [distros] that aren't redirecting [core dumps] through a > > piped program (which is most of them) > > By "most of them", I take it you mean "Red Hat derivatives" or > something like that, as neither my Debian system nor my Gentoo system > does this Ubuntu does, RH and all derivatives do. That covers a huge proportion of distros right there. I suspect that all distros will eventually start doing it because it means they can convert core files into compressed coredumps, saving lots of room (which is not the same as gzipping them). It also means you don't end up with corefiles scattered across the disk because you can put them in one central place if you want to, though that's not why RH or Ubuntu do it. > I stand by my original suggestion: documenting the ulimit command > takes up only one line, and may be useful to many users if their crash > is easily reproducible Oh, I agree. It just might not do anything. :) -- NULL && (void)