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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, cedet-eieio@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>
Subject: Re: Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:31:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3qcfa4x.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpq05rm2h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:47:51 -0500")

Stefan Monnier writes:
>> I didn't have time yet to look at your patch in detail.  I did apply it
>> to CEDET trunk and got byte-compile errors because there's
>> eieio-class-parent as well as eieio--class-parent.
>
> Hmm.. there are both eieio-class-parent as well as eieio--class-parent,
> but I'm not sure why that would cause a byte-compile error.

In toplevel form:
eieio.el:168:1:Error: Symbol's function definition is void: eieio--class-parent

I also cannot find a definition for eieio--class-parent, but maybe it's
hidden somewhere?

> I don't know CLOS either.  I also don't know EIEIO enough to know for
> sure which functions are "internal" (and can hence move to "eieio-" or
> even "eieio--" without any problem) and which are "exported", so that
> renaming them has to be done more carefully (with obsolete aliases).

Eric already posted links to the hyperspec where this can be looked
up. From your bug report #10781, the following names are from CLOS:

* Most of the slot-* names, like slot-boundp, slot-exists-p, etc.
* make-instance, initialize-instance
* with-slots
* class-name, class-of
* next-method-p, call-next-method
* defgeneric, defclass, defmethod

Now, whether to include them in the cl- or the eieio-namespace - I don't
have a terribly strong opinion on that one. If it's deemed too hack-ish,
then so be it, and we just prefix everything with eieio-. [Eric, if you
feel more strongly about those names, then please speak up. :-) ]

Actually, the most critical thing is 'oref' and 'oset', because this is
used extensively (~1800 times in CEDET), and it is not from
CLOS. Prefixing that with 'eieio-' would make code using EIEIO very
verbose, but I guess there's just no way around that...?

-David

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-13 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-10 18:10 Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace Stefan Monnier
2013-02-12 22:10 ` David Engster
2013-02-12 23:05   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-13  6:44     ` David Engster
2013-02-13 14:51       ` Drew Adams
2013-02-13  2:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-13 16:31     ` David Engster [this message]
2013-02-14  1:11       ` [cedet-eieio] " Eric M. Ludlam
2013-02-14 13:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 14:00           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-14 21:17           ` David Engster
2013-02-14 22:16             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-18 21:32               ` David Engster
2013-02-19  3:26                 ` [cedet-eieio] " Stefan Monnier
2013-02-19 19:49                   ` David Engster
2013-02-19 21:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 23:41                     ` [cedet-eieio] " Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-29 10:04               ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-03-29 14:20                 ` Drew Adams
2013-03-29 21:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 14:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 21:28         ` David Engster
2013-02-14 22:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 22:26             ` David Engster
2013-02-17 17:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-18 20:55                 ` David Engster
2013-02-19  3:15                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-13  3:13   ` [cedet-eieio] " Eric M. Ludlam

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