From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:36:50 +0530 Message-ID: <87k3pkz411.fsf@gmail.com> References: <878v6vidh7.fsf@gmail.com> <7BC00EAA1AF8466D8F9C17B3CA4E82B8@us.oracle.com> <87bob65sbw.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqtkxspi.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362600464 678 80.91.229.3 (6 Mar 2013 20:07:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13686@debbugs.gnu.org To: David Koppelman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 06 21:08:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKdD-0007Si-6p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:08:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56350 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKcr-0006xI-FX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56166) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKcn-0006vE-44 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKcg-0004Wg-Oa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKcg-0004WN-I5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKd7-0007kA-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:08:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13686 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13686-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13686.136260045829738 (code B ref 13686); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13686) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2013 20:07:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKci-0007jX-Ie for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.160.54]:57033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDKcc-0007jG-8a for 13686@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:07:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rr4so6481870pbb.27 for <13686@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:06:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=kILFTvVcaHQoKDkRyHuBnLk+3gzJRJYF2/FNInOhI3o=; b=wGOP1Ut7RG+cRZU1Eqj42axx5Xwo8WdoP9ffHnhoGpLIgtkgMHisK+I5G71p6juZGk 5I52Y0FSBcruCrwZIaQeGQ3gZctPJwIFcIMJqI/ESVd9oQoMkDrP2CYhqDzU+pP+vyE+ ZMHKl4oR91ssgpN2SF/1DXAA7y1GGMphchSTgxGr+/EWMK1RArsTlaexUztFELz0w4L2 041MUloSfPDRS0/F9pUCP/koldqvwWU2tD07043R+5dQwQ51pTzmpAvgtkU1M37Itzll IibLAQaPBd1VhAaaLN7FpuG+2kL6AqLiVq5HL7nPwkxI9ECPsfUBj5jxVjMym5qJG/Xp JQwA== X-Received: by 10.68.28.194 with SMTP id d2mr48001746pbh.215.1362600416720; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:06:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.90.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gf6sm32639842pbc.24.2013.03.06.12.06.52 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:06:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (David Koppelman's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:55:28 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:72180 Archived-At: David Koppelman writes: >> From: Jambunathan K gmail.com> >> >> Let's focus on core, themable faces. How many you want in what prefix >> or file. I propose that these faces be named opaquely as > >> hi-lock-N >> highlight-N >> font-lock-user-N >> font-lock-highlight-N >> font-lock-extra-face-N > > I object to using cryptic names for faces. Ok, I withdraw hi-lock-N. As for other faces, I believe it is Stefan's or Emacs maintainers call. I am moving forward, after getting a in-principle go from Stefan. > The user should see a recognizable color name for the default hi-lock > faces, and should be able to pick any face he or she likes. Hi-lock > currently does this. I know that this can be achieved using face names > such as hi-lock-1 by extracting a color from a face definition (if > necessary, mapping an RGB triple to a name), but this is an > unnecessary complication. As I see it, the only things that will be > achieved are providing for themability and abiding by a convention > that some interpret as a separation of face attributes from face > names. I gave a code snippet at the end of the mail. If you had looked at it, you will realize that I have done nothing which changes the status quo but I have done eveything to accommodate my requirements. I am the proposer, right? Please provide specific feedback on the snippet rather than registering a broad objection. I have made an effort to understand the "I-want-color" camp and I have also openly acknowledged that the "I-want-color" camp have valid and sensible arguments. Jambunathan K.