From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Highway Musophobia Revisited [was: Speeding up Emacs load time] Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:35:38 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87k3kmq1l1.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87r4ezdiiy.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ez92ry.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87txjv7gen.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ey3jjd.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kqnup9.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87li56mbet.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6ym7xi.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374230415 20493 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2013 10:40:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:40:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 12:40:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V086j-0006Vd-AX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:40:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52942 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V086i-0007Up-T9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 06:40:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mP3FoCFR8hLaXPt4jPW+sDQvdps= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:199982 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92248 Archived-At: Rustom Mody writes: > Just to add to what you are saying: Why are apple and samsung > raking in billions? Quite simply because touch-devices are to > the mouse what the mouse is to the keyboard. With a keyboard > one needs to know a command-line/keybindings etc, all the > makings of nerdiness to become a user. A mouse allows a > non-nerd to become a user. It yet needs some analogizing between > the pointing and the pointed. Unify the two into a single > touch-device and now 4-year-olds become users. Right. But as you might have guessed, I'm not talking about users. Users want to know as little as possible, but still be users (the lower bound, or the rule of least resistance). I want to know as *much* as possible, and not be a users at all, but a creator. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573