From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Sieger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:42:52 -0500 Message-ID: <87k3g5o5s3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384803804 13887 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2013 19:43:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:43:24 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 20:43:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUjD-0007hA-U5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:43:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45595 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUjD-0006pi-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:43:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUj2-0006e3-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:43:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUiu-0000OG-EB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:43:12 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51572) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUiu-0000NB-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:43:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViUir-0007Xn-St for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:43:01 +0100 Original-Received: from pool-74-101-84-254.nycmny.east.verizon.net ([74.101.84.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:43:01 +0100 Original-Received: from sean.sieger by pool-74-101-84-254.nycmny.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:43:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-101-84-254.nycmny.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wZeaVYI8LViY8VCqB3HowrhTsWM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165337 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Perhaps most current Emacs users use TeX when they want to format something. > I use TeX to write a manual, and also when I want to send a nicely formatted > letter; but I wish I could do the latter WYSIWYG in Emacs. It surprises me that you say that, and with all do respect, that I found a mail with the subject line. Doing, C-c C-c in AUCTeX has always seemed WYSIWYG-enough for me ... especially with a quick letter or some such. The confidence, bang, ``It's gonna look perfect,'' not the, ``Hm, what's the word processor gonna produce??'' You really want GNU Emacs to produce files replete with the metadata that screws that very same file up at some later date? The day that happened to me fifteen years ago was that last time I ever used Microsoft Word---or any other `word processor'.