From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RFC: Flavors - naming significant sets of customizations Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:33:59 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87k3fu297z.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <9fc6b1ae-7cbd-4a17-a9a0-f4af42969312@googlegroups.com> <871u22zzq2.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385498117 27707 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 20:35:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:35:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 21:35:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlPLr-0004QH-Aw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:35:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlPLq-0007Ck-Ub for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:35:18 -0500 X-Received: by 10.180.8.41 with SMTP id o9mr2570wia.7.1385498064674; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:34:24 -0800 (PST) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.116.97 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!bo7no8365031wib.1!news-out.google.com!hj15ni6588wib.0!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:vY0Npy3Z2l4rjBFfUd/Qtunkusg= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202393 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94662 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > But there's a wider issue of "how do I structure my > .emacs" that everyone seems to solve differently[1], > and which I would argue is a form of customization. >From a technical standpoint, it makes sense to have small bundles of configurations, all well defined. Then they would have priority so that you could stack them so there's no conflicts (or mutex "fields" where they apply, perhaps). But from a human standpoint, it sounds too much like the total fragmentation of the Linux distributions, that is counter-productive and downright bizarre. In "Linux Magazine" there are seasoned old professionals who reason like this: newbie: what Linux distribution should I choose? pro: there is no right or wrong. test a couple and determine what suits you the best. This is *dead wrong*. The right answer is "it doesn't matter. just pick *any* with a history, a reputation, and an active user base. whatever you then stumble upon that you don't like, you can change in 1 second, because in 99% of the cases, such problems will not relate to either the kernel or the distribution, but to the *software*, which always is the same, and not only across the Linux world but over the entire scope of Unix, Solaris, BSD, you name it." The same sort of fragmentation and rebranding of Emacs is something I never want to see. The attitude that should be encouraged is: "if you have a problem, you can fix that problem, by fixing that problem, and that problem alone. and you don't need to install or download anything to do that." -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573