From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs will never be a WYSIWYG-editor and should not try to Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:33:18 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <87k3fu26ht.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <2013-11-22T16-27-58@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83k3g0cnby.fsf@gnu.org> <2013-11-24T11-44-42@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <83zjotbv29.fsf@gnu.org> <87iovf640c.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385501625 19261 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 21:33:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:33:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 22:33:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGU-00065U-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:33:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32857 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGU-0006Ku-0t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:33:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGK-0006Bk-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGE-0007UX-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:33:40 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGE-0007TC-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlQGC-0005wq-IL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:33:32 +0100 Original-Received: from pd9eb2b55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.43.85]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:33:32 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2b55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:33:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb2b55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9md4i/7Nlz+ZzlKdo26EiCprP2Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165789 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I hope that my suggestion to test Org will somehow not be burried > with this huge thread :) > > I tried it a little bit and it ran into an undefined function. > Then I rebuilt the autoloads. I will try it again when I have time. My recommendation is to use the build system and properly install Org, otherwise (depending on how your startup is structured) you can all too easily pull in some older parts of Org that are part of Emacs' own installation. The minimum requirement is that the autoloads have been generated (as you've found out), but in this case the load-path must point to org-mode/lisp/ before any other startup that potentially loads any piece of org-mode takes place. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada