From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Search StackOverflow and paste code snippets without leaving the edited file Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:54:26 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87k3eb62ro.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <871u0ni3nt.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87txdhg8xb.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389120948 9421 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 18:55:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 18:55:48 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 19:55:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0boh-0004V1-7O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:55:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42308 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0bog-0000Mb-T2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 13:55:54 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 76 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:5UsUbUlmS61/zhxcC8IYJ30soSE= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:203030 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95299 Archived-At: Marcin Borkowski writes: > None of these ("artificial perfection", "one and only > one correct answer" etc.) are commonly observed on > TeX.SE. It is very interesting that you mention this because this is *exactly* me experience, and I have actually written about that in this group when this was discussed perhaps a year ago. Though I can't see the difference (I did lots of LaTeX a while back, while doing programming at the same time) - it must be something with the nature of that work (publishing and typesetting) that don't produce as much frustration as does programming. > Disagreed. Then, why do we teach algebra, > combinatorics, analysis and set theory as different > subjects at the university? Answer: this is > technically easier, and some people just like > algebra/analysis/whatnot more. The university analogy is correct in the sense that is a way to do it, and it works. However, if you ask the math teacher in algebra class a calculus question, what will happen is most probably [s]he will answer that question to the best of her/his ability. If not possible, [s]he will explain how that is another field and make a mental note to later contemplate how that off-topic (or was it?) question popped up, and decide perhaps it relates somehow, in which case [s]he should go to the library and try to assemble a rudimentary answer for next time. What will most definitely *not* happen is that the teacher will bark "that's not what we do here" and the rest of the class will give her/him a standing ovation. As for the sites, I agree the division is a practical thing. However, the practical thing should never be an obstacle, because then it is not practical anymore, is it? On the SX sites, I don't think the practical solution is an obstacle exclusively in-itself, in fact, I think it makes sense on the blueprint, only when (some) people use those sites, they run into dead ends, and when they do, on those sites it is very difficult to express anything other than "questions and answers", and this is why to me it sure looks like when they are angry at newcomers and bubble haughtily about the nature of their sites, the tone of that tells me that they are actually frustrated about other things completely. You probably think I'm an amateur psychologist now but that's how it looks to me. But there are other reasons I like Usenet more. One is the common interface for everything. Another reason is the text-only style. Take a look below. I don't think you will ever have the like on a "Q&A" site. And, there are questions and answers here, too. Why not have it all, and programmable at that, when it is so easy to have? http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html > And, there are i.e. some Ubuntu-specific questions, > completely unrelated to, say, Gentoo or programming > in general. Yes, there are such cases but there are as many cases where things are not as easily isolated from each other. I think it is much better to just give it your all, and not bicker about such things. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573