From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: clang vs free software Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:29 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87k3dmah8e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <52DA8C17.4080707@yandex.ru> <52DC00E5.3020803@yandex.ru> <52DC6A26.3020003@yandex.ru> <87k3dv9z85.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87eh439w1n.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ha8yqvup.fsf@engster.org> <87r47zezcc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390750556 21833 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2014 15:35:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:35:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 26 16:36:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Rkb-0003t7-QK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7Rkb-0005NT-Du for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:35:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7RkS-0005ND-Pe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:35:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7RkN-0001l8-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:35:48 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W7RkM-0001jf-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:35:42 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W7RkK-0003kv-O0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:40 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f52277.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.34.119]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:40 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f52277.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f52277.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g5yXO0YzQHkuevO4ngi0km6xx7A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169126 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > We don't want to make a program's entire AST available for parsing >> > because that would make it easy to extend GCC with proprietary >> > programs. >> >> Let me just say that even tho I understand and agree with the goal, >> I disagree. >> >> +1 Too bad the GNU project is not a democracy where you carry around protest signs and then somebody is supposed to do the work for making things so that you like them. Finding solutions takes more work than saying "I disagree". Seriously. I am glad I don't have Richard's totally ungrateful job, but then he picked it himself. -- David Kastrup