From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: "Tu\, Do" <solidius4747@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A package in a league of its own: Helm
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:43:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k35lvvay.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75ba2f61-8bff-41dd-aee5-6ce99cedd9d7@googlegroups.com> (Do Tu's message of "Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:32:12 -0700")
"Tu, Do" <solidius4747@gmail.com> writes:
>> I could rebind helm to make it use tab and delete like ido, although I
>>
>> think it would still not be as nice as ido. Say I do find-file in a
>>
>> directory, then select src, then uk, then ac, then ncl (as in a java
>>
>> project), in ido I go C-xC-f s [rtn][rtn][rtn][rtn] because ido offers
>>
>> "uk" and the others as the first completion. Helm offers "." and ".." as
>>
>> the first two, so I have to do C-xCf s
>>
>> [right][down][down][right][down][down][right]. Or I have to hit the
>>
>> first key of "uk", then "ac" -- all of which requires thinking about.
>>
>
> For an edge case like that where everything is at the top, then even stock
> find-file is fast.
This is not an edge case for me. I have a lot of empty directories. In
the ideal world ido or helm would just squash them.
> But then, your current directory contains many files then you may one
> to look around to see the files in that directory. In that case, Ido
> cannot do it because you cannot have an actually buffer to scroll
> up/down to see. In this case, with Ido, you have to drop into Dired,
> look around and start ido-find-file again.
Yes, this is true, if the number of files is large. For small numbers
you can see the options, for large numbers this is truncated.
>> C-j: Hit1 Expand Candidate, Hit2 or (C-u) Find file
>>
>> find-file (`C-l': Go up one level)
>>
>>
>>
>> What does "Hit1" and "Hit2" mean?
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
>
> helm-projectile is really nice but if you want to look at the current
> directory or navigate around, you should use helm-find-files. C-j means that
> you proceed to the next level, that is either a file or a directory. Hit 1
> means pressing one time. Hit 2 means pressing 2 times; pres you hit C-j twices
> and if your highlighting is on a file, then the file content is opened up in
> another buffer. You can also press C-u in helm-find-files; its has the same
> effect as pressing C-j twice. You can navigate the other buffer with
> M-<next>/M-<prior>.
Okay, that's a good explanation!
> Actually, navigating back and forth with C-j/C-l is much faster than <tab> and
> <delete>/<return> since both of those keys are on the home row.
Well, we both having the confounding factor that I am used to
del/tab/ret and you are used to C-j/C-l. None the less, I would argue
that single key presses are faster than doubles, especially for
tab/del/retn which everyone uses a lot and are nice and big.
Phil
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-29 4:18 A package in a league of its own: Helm solidius4747
2014-08-29 5:49 ` Guide for package use?(was A package in a league of its own: Helm) Rusi
2014-08-29 6:17 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 13:36 ` A package in a league of its own: Helm Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7830.1409319420.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:03 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 15:06 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 16:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7852.1409330926.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 17:08 ` solidius4747
2014-08-29 18:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7861.1409335444.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 1:49 ` solidius4747
2014-08-30 3:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
[not found] ` <mailman.7892.1409369651.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30 3:55 ` solidius4747
2014-09-01 16:01 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-01 16:49 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 13:06 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8044.1409590146.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:59 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-01 17:25 ` Nikolai Weibull
2014-09-01 17:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-09-01 17:40 ` York Zhao
2014-09-01 20:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-09-02 0:27 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 1:40 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2014-09-02 1:56 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 23:15 ` Tak Kunihiro
[not found] ` <mailman.8046.1409592357.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 8:21 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:27 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8039.1409587302.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-01 16:43 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 13:19 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 14:13 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 14:20 ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-02 17:03 ` York Zhao
2014-09-03 9:58 ` Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <mailman.8183.1409738348.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 10:19 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8134.1409677438.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 17:11 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-02 17:32 ` York Zhao
2014-09-02 18:15 ` Tu
2014-09-03 0:35 ` York Zhao
[not found] ` <mailman.8166.1409704538.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-03 3:50 ` Tu, Do
[not found] ` <mailman.8106.1409664004.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-02 14:32 ` Tu, Do
2014-09-03 10:43 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2014-08-31 9:09 ` Ernesto Durante
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