From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: latex-mode hook? Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:51:20 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87k35cy3lz.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bnqr27vm.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppf7feq0.fsf@debian.uxu> <878ultg4mc.fsf@debian.uxu> <20140909095151.706f3cdd@aga-netbook> <87sik1rmwd.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <20140909153924.3811e4c8@aga-netbook> <20140909190036.55bd710a@aga-netbook> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410292529 25664 80.91.229.3 (9 Sep 2014 19:55:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:55:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 09 21:55:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XRRVZ-0008RC-LY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 21:55:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51630 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XRRVZ-0002hB-Ca for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:55:21 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: P0uMB9BthHuWo8+BJXB4Mw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JyieoHnvnoL4Q4UnnGwObBE+ziE= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:207468 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99744 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> (Disclaimer: I am not involved in AUCTeX development >> in any way.) > > Disclaimer: I'm the primary contributor to plain > latex-mode. :) I have used that a lot so thank you for that. The only thing I don't like is the filling that I have already mentioned that fills between short { ... } where it would make more sense (to me) to move the whole thing down a line. This could be a "best effort"-feature: on the first M-q, it is filled so to keep together the { ... } if possible. If there is a second M-q with no point movement in between, it could fall back to ordinary filling (as then the user didn't like the first outcome). And the .pdf/source-search disparity I already mentioned. It is common for students to submit a PDF. I always encourage them to include the LaTeX source, so the teacher can quote the source rather than writing illegible little bows and arrows on the printed PDF - much like how we quote here on Usenet, in fact. Unfortunately, many (most) teachers aren't that sharp (at least not in that respect), so the students have to work not directly on the source to make the improvements/adjustments, they have to keep one eye on the printed PDF, and then track the places in the LaTeX. This is very tedious work compared to the solution I propose, and for a 30+ pages report with dozens of fixes and comments on each page it is one of the least inspiring forms of computer work I can think of. I don't know if the "hide markup" and/or search function I describe can help a lot - probably not - but perhaps alleviate the pain a bit. Well, there you have a couple of suggestions to contemplate if you get restless (unless they are already there). -- underground experts united