From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My plans for VC mode Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:27:51 +0000 Message-ID: <87k32lu37s.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <20141122133351.46279382C23@snark.thyrsus.com> <20141122164134.GD25909@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416770911 12446 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2014 19:28:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:28:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 23 20:28:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xscpe-0006QQ-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 20:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49781 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xscpe-0006Bb-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XscpQ-0006BW-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XscpP-0007nJ-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:48235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XscpO-0007li-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=vI8X1N5JSCMEIN4MrHNFRPNCt60kPtxhinLfAEbA2x0=; b=iA5jFiWrGMGPojiJBraXHDeBzhcCMrHhL+TgS/PlZdoD6EaWDhb+MRwnSy+RNIV5tKB8A9Opl9RlS/KJZEEsx5SWOhqRIPBdW+dy3AbAUv4BTTKZIIRpMEnCcndwW8jEBiJG2f6iKo49UbbY1lKIZmiwVkQ5ZbyhIedgxs0RaJQ=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XscpC-0000Un-VG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:27:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xscp6-0005a3-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 02:27:52 +0700 In-Reply-To: <20141122164134.GD25909@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:41:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178113 Archived-At: >>>>> Eric S Raymond writes: >>>>> Stefan Monnier : >> I'm fine with breaking backward compatibility. But then please try >> to find "all" the out-of-tree backends for Free revision control >> systems, and then try to find their maintainer to get them in the >> loop. > I'd be happy to get the maintainers involved, but I don't have any > idea how to go about finding the out-of-tree back ends. Help would > be appreciated. FWIW, as a maintainer of vc-mw.el, I=E2=80=99m already following this thread (albeit loosely.) Sure, I=E2=80=99m all for simplifying the VC-to-backend interface, yet I=E2=80=99m somewhat concerned over whether I=E2=80=99d be able to provide support for /both/ Emacs=C2=A024 and the Git =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 in m= y code. At the very least, I hope that the calling conventions for the most basic interface functions my backend provides (including registered, state, working-revision, find-revision, checkin, print-log) are changed in a kind of a compatible way. (For instance, I could easily make =E2=80=98state=E2=80=99 also accept a list of files instead of just a single one. Or so I hope, anyway.) Otherwise, I=E2=80=99d rather appreciate if the updated interface could use some entirely new function names where the semantics changes drastically, so that I can provide functions implementing both the old and the new interface. (I do not think it=E2=80=99s necessary for the new VC to support the old interface in this case.) [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A