From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rasmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2lt6652.fsf@gmx.us> References: <8737syoima.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871t8iu277.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83d1s28kvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3gis7sm.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83twle71xy.fsf@gnu.org> <87io1us0te.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83pow26svf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8n5srbp.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83d1s17npz.fsf@gnu.org> <87oablfpn3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834mdd6llx.fsf@gnu.org> <7fbb8bc7-9a97-4bad-a103-a6690a35241d@default> <834mdc5w6o.fsf@gnu.org> <838u2hu6aq.fsf@gnu.org> <871t899tde.fsf@gnus.org> <83y4ahru04.fsf@gnu.org> <877fi05nhx.fsf@gnus.org> <8337snreeu.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456356482 13257 80.91.229.3 (24 Feb 2016 23:28:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:28:02 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 25 00:27:53 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqW-0006xo-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:27:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqV-000883-Nu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:27:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36393) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqS-00087y-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:27:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqP-0003Fd-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:27:48 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35951) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqP-0003ET-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:27:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYiqN-0006rk-B3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:27:43 +0100 Original-Received: from 46.166.186.219 ([46.166.186.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:27:43 +0100 Original-Received: from rasmus by 46.166.186.219 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:27:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 46.166.186.219 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAAAmJLR0QA/4ePzL8AAAAJcEhZ cwAAAEgAAABIAEbJaz4AAAHKSURBVEjHlZTLlexACENnf3NRLiRCLmSiUBQR5y08v3Z73P1Y2nWr EAg+9iZ88e3j5nzqfwHlXeDIxbwN9OzuNn4bqN1EeDd5Byit25Ck/AKY7BpFXZRlXgBduxHTtBhp 6HsA7Q4yjKrRULdAwDPUgKsahXqUfX6hqCr3oGQaPC3fihZNxTC7A+1+VPEEmIYEDvXYemj4cx+q oVcwG8FsvwDc0BFoB5i17oEIKlTRqsI+jHUDIFXTDaQwk3vAjCRmoKI+W/bqBRcQQ5niNBRXGmag Nx4PvDLf7pbSjsfOPrn7CshkhCSp5p2Jy0jjHD2pvASsrzSyu65XI+o+TsQFnSfiCfiyZgMg79Tt APUcqaQ4wtt/2zvzq01uAZB9KO3H47ih37wbqMeV+Rs4fp+2TtWxSq6AuQAORZrrlFrnLfTt4FxX yVfrd3e36rpKZ+/kx/O5TKkfalyi8klJF8Dvac9nF/BuPCWegZ+Esj5mFNBXA8+AC8q7G7ta0F/m +IwTYJgB1bR6nBHcAUFZAQMV+8sXfwKmNwDHxYp7T4+cAWVbqq4qdTKu+5S+TTH+Xpj8PPkseqA9 MzPjJE/3P5e1eREnDeL/AHgX+Ac1wLS1jG2Y1gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vI3ju7yLaIWvY3YNydyQPI3Yq+4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200644 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Are you saying that making the default depend on the locale would be > > OK? > > I think it is ok to use the locale as a sort of last default, > but more important than that is to make it easy to specify different > behaviors in Emacs, both globally and for a specific buffer. I think it should look at the /keyboard layout/ before the /locale/. E.g. on my system the locale would suggest that I can easily type ñ, though in fact I cannot: $ localectl System Locale: LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 VC Keymap: dk-latin1 X11 Layout: dk X11 Variant: nodeadkeys Rasmus -- Hooray!