From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Etymology of `visiting' files Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:36:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2fr3ven.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87y447oaaw.fsf@rudiments.goosenet.in> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470685037 9039 195.159.176.226 (8 Aug 2016 19:37:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Udyant Wig Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 08 21:37:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWqMJ-0002BS-Bi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 21:37:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWqMG-0001Pn-5g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 15:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWqLq-0001PX-2V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 15:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWqLl-0003An-Vy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 15:36:41 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp09.blacknight.com ([46.22.139.14]:33094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bWqLl-0003AJ-Oh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 15:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail05.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.26]) by outbound-smtp09.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBC951C1820 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2016 20:36:33 +0100 (IST) Original-Received: (qmail 7883 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2016 19:36:33 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[93.107.196.30]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 8 Aug 2016 19:36:33 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87y447oaaw.fsf@rudiments.goosenet.in> (message from Udyant Wig on Mon, 08 Aug 2016 15:24:31 +0530) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 46.22.139.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:111081 Archived-At: Udyant Wig writes: > What motivated the choice of the verb `visiting'? > > From reading some of the relevant section in the Emacs and Elisp > manuals, I understand the process the verb names. However, I wanted to > find some reasoning or discussion about the choice of verb; my own > expectation would have been something like `edit' or `load', but that > would be looking through the lens provided by recent editing systems. I expect it's mnemonic. On early versions of Emacs before GNU Emacs using multiple buffers was considered advanced. Emacs opened in a "Main" buffer. The keybinding C-x C-v ("visit-file") visited a file in that buffer. The keybinding C-x C-f ("find-file") visited a file in a new buffer. See pages 71 & 83 of this document from 1981. http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/mit_emacs_170_teco_1220/01/info/emacs.guide.html BR, Robert Thorpe