From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Can't figure out how to create a tabulated-list-mode with visible Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:28:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87k2ddrk5f.fsf@web.de> References: <87lgxxfqsv.fsf@jupiter.lan> <874m4joeos.fsf@web.de> <87y41upcrg.fsf@jupiter.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476265225 12923 195.159.176.226 (12 Oct 2016 09:40:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:40:25 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Huchler Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 11:40:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1buG1F-0001ys-VQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:40:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buG1E-0000Tj-JK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 05:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44548) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buFq4-0000Bk-P2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 05:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buFq0-0007fz-K8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 05:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:61381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buFq0-0007fa-9L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 05:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([90.186.3.175]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MHY1o-1bqy3I3YAm-003Nfc; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 11:28:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y41upcrg.fsf@jupiter.lan> (Stefan Huchler's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:38:43 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pHFfFjLmE1UvHdWnqEmrs/GzTg0mDqo17ZRHv5waNrs/+rtfmax 4nixNOWsdG/2j18A6Vos1CpLvkiUs3EorAc05pOMMHSRWL97s/YPgRDRIDYjlhvxPnueE/T 3w3lwUbiV8V9hSCkxOoIeH17GvYXoiHVnWl4C8IgZ3JGFnPCoZwuH/cV4zSoxngVSmjDVZu t7dPrYMVKdjp0us9o/NMA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:4J67+RGInOc=:hTjnw3OynFzm0B3S80H1DT 1xSe4KrB+PfKdEMEKRGkEmaZeO8wNpz80V7mIKBN9lOYr8VWRV4qvTh0cw571umcN+r2HOwNr UIAJKL52cUxA0iFaA4lv7MZTN7iJwdDOxEF8znhn5Qhjw5KGB/PbvRwhgdhZfAev8x4SJ7ieo dMOvLgEF3AMPIBnRVocH1zXKt/mx28GaqyfDh5hs+Ina9rmLAzx6GSVMONBCKCKPuDwuYtWHc GniTkYEHo8wqDin4Q41dehZkcfVEO9c3XOIDe1KXlymtC7KUnDsVdv5dM5u72yNjnWgR3ElhG rs87vHdD/ihNIGazKUMVjo1hgNsIhU7VGNvOmsVuUMJowtphQIq70gvlv1Evvp2tn8U4ptgkZ Pa7pLVF0O+gOsgHMBp/ec8dPN74JBD0uqYjFCABLLj4u1Sjr5Ov7ceCKwRjwS/vkcAYUP98BC yZ9rnZ7d5mZguHXAHormyk9dAgBHrPhgGqpFcL7sXlbIzKVO7EZNCko1pKNYT/4UYA+g3Bcp1 1LJ/4+quYk+a71ZqIKy0zkIM8zju+TiRrc/pQzFss7DVyG6LbOzAT2SL3+QYTJmuXPVBtRDi+ W7HsyJILisM5qtu0t6hVhtSIy/0DLPy+ANq8PrP5AZKSDd9VrcNbiiHUkGqM7TXl1FgcJmc4a ES6tUl0g4jSnlBxmq/GdaTGXz5WZOBI1S8piCUXhtlg9YIUH7wFv/os4bqeaoxp0J8Q9ZhW2e YqaNo1c30r3RMnBbHcw0XLD03Tn362yekilpoSepBsc/IVGWA2XuzD0PB7rByinvGxRt42Fg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:111508 Archived-At: Stefan Huchler writes: > Well I guess I misread the description. Each has the form, so the > additional parenthesis makes sense, but why is a ' needed for entries > but not for format? Good question! One might assume that () and [] are quite symmetric, but there are important differences. Lisp programs are written as lists (and not as vectors). If you want a list constant (at a position that is evaluated), you need to quote the list to prevent evaluation, otherwise it would be interpreted as code. OTOH, the syntax for vectors, [element...], is only used to describe vectors. Vectors are self-evaluating objects, so you don't need to quote. It wouldn't harm OTOH, but I guess it would look quite strange to most people. Regards, Michael.