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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:09:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k29arlqn.fsf@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8660ku7v2r.fsf@stephe-leake.org

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:55:56 -0600 Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> wrote: 

>> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> We're moving toward a future where Emacs.git will represent "core
>>> Emacs", and only contain what core needs (plus a few historical bits,
>>> I'm sure). There should be no argument for keeping a project in core
>>> just to gain auxiliary benefits.

SL> It is primarily up to the package developers whether a package is in
SL> core or not, at least until it is clear that there is no advantage to
SL> being in core.

Stephen, I think your statement and John's statement don't agree.

SL> ;; package-requires: ((emacs "25.2"))

FWIW, I agree with Lars because we had many years of maintenance pain
with Gnus due to old Emacs and XEmacs versions. Every time we tried to
add the package requirement, there were people objecting because distro
X only packaged Emacs Y. This affected not only new features, but also
security and documentation.

So if the "core" and the "extras" of Emacs are separated, there has to
be a way to pin a package to "latest" Emacs. And then there has to be a
mechanism to a priori reject bugs filed by people who want to use that
package with a previous Emacs, because those people exist and are very
determined, and I don't want to spend my time arguing with them about
social responsibility.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-01 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-26 13:45     ` Rasmus
2017-01-26 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 15:09               ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-15  1:15                               ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 22:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-12 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2017-02-13 19:35                             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-13 19:48                               ` [OT] What's wrong with Gnus citations? Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 20:57                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-14  3:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 14:59                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-13 20:56                               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? John Wiegley
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` [O] " Phillip Lord
2017-02-06 10:00       ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  2:22         ` John Wiegley

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