From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [emacs-announce] Emacs pretest 26.0.90 is out Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 15:53:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87k1zt6d1p.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87po9t2w96.fsf@petton.fr> <87bml6vxtw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <5b872362-081c-4040-9104-0e413309eeda@default> <14fb5a0b-30cb-4a04-8fef-24962cb6d811@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508252040 20130 195.159.176.226 (17 Oct 2017 14:54:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:54:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs Devel , Noam Postavsky To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 17 16:53:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFb-0003wj-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:53:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFi-0008Tw-VJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFb-0008Tb-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFY-0006S8-Ln for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:47 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:54797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFY-0006RS-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:53:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=z7ezKwIXR2Xj2RqiL47JVv7lRj4GyFwEeHspwRTlIj4=; b=ZggaCbRMTyNHNMbsAvrvr654A J/M5SMh/iuZ4CGWkgcy0/D808iCtSm9DziaX4GqR5aEH6DaJhR/Ax90wUFNvI4uRP0m4Vo1bsyD/2 Y8iK13UY3OEWs5AKB1sBnweNy6PAbmuRk8Tz0Gs+1Uya3nHxG4RgTUUX1kGVFTME8TFcste57ySp+ rATMpx9Lp6w9OMwxS4WNp1UiMsFTsc9ANcpRViE/FGeS7jiZ41RbRl/lFtfLhNPnDq9VL6CFyj9JQ Ulay25rivwXguBrzj+vZGHH/4pf3R0N0VqqgFAr1bMgO9qI0xocBNsNlhJNZLQgspGwrKoZsI/8Uw S0TaZl0Sw==; Original-Received: from cpc8-benw10-2-0-cust100.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([92.233.204.101]:53572 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e4TFW-0026Ga-P4; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:53:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <14fb5a0b-30cb-4a04-8fef-24962cb6d811@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:06:50 -0700 (PDT)") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-Topics: emacs-announce X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219606 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > What _are_ those *-deps zip files? >> > What does "deps" stand for? >> >> Your questions are answered here: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__alpha.gnu.org_gnu_emacs_pretest_windows_README-2Demacs26- >> 2Dpretests&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=qZLZo >> sY6GBAaJtOG9v8QX7nD4BS9t9s5otgxC3d4IFU&m=id_9at6z1Pc2fkgBNw2Cix0Z8WJQiDBp >> 1mIa-xBFENs&s=oEcXByM_Hjss9Nt7qtjlb6wOmCuCjW67KCThPjGZWbQ&e= > > Got it. And now they are (indirectly) answered in > this announcement thread too. Thank you. > > (Except that "the dependencies" is defined nowhere. > You have to guess what might be meant by that.) Yes, this is true. My plan for the next pre-test is to turn these around. So "emacs-$version.zip" will contain all the dependencies while "emacs-$version-no-deps.zip" will not. Then people who don't know what to choose will get bells and whistles by default. It would be quite nice to add a "runemacs.bat" file at top level also, I think, but it's probably too late in the release cycle for this. Phil