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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: wingo@igalia.com, 25061@debbugs.gnu.org, ludo@gnu.org,
	michael.albinus@gmx.de, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#25061: consider adding %COMPAT to default gnutls priority string
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:29:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1xu90eg.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o9n7t669.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:04:30 +0200")

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:04:30 +0200 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: 

EZ> Is everything you proposed strictly needed to fix the original
EZ> problem?  It sounds like a lot of changes just for having the
EZ> equivalent of '(setq gnutls-algorithm-priority "NORMAL:%DUMBFW")'
EZ> setting in effect.

It's a plan to provide a facility that can solve the underlying problem
of heterogeneous network setups.

EZ> E.g., could we simply make the above the default
EZ> value of gnutls-algorithm-priority for Emacs 26.1, and do all the rest
EZ> on master?

Yes, let's.

EZ> Previously, you said:

>> I'd rather stay with the current defaults and defer the rest of the work
>> to when connection-specific settings are available.

EZ> but you didn't explain why you didn't like changing the defaults.  If
EZ> that's because you thought it wasn't very clean, then would such a
EZ> change be okay just as a temporary measure, to be replaced by a
EZ> cleaner solution in Emacs 27?  Or can this default hurt something?

It would change behavior for everyone for the sake of fixing a few
setups. Does %DUMBFW or %COMPAT create a risk that's not justified by
the functionality it provides? These exceptions have a way of living
long past their expiration date.

If we're confident that's the right thing, then let's change it in the
release and add a note in the docs. I'm OK with the change; any other
comments? What should be the actual string?

Regardless, I'll make the connection profile changes in master, which
gives us more time to find problems and provide a better integration for
them. I'll discuss it in emacs-devel. Thank you for your consideration
and help.

Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-10 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-29 10:24 bug#25061: consider adding %COMPAT to default gnutls priority string Andy Wingo
2016-12-01 18:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-12-01 20:25   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-12-01 21:44     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-24 22:48       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-30  8:01         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 15:51           ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-13 16:04             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-02 13:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-06 19:32                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-07  7:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-09-14 21:11                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-15  6:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-02 17:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-09 23:50                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-10  7:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-10 13:29                               ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2017-12-10 14:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-11 15:03                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-11 15:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-15  4:18                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-16 23:25                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-16 23:34                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-17  3:39                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-17 15:17                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-19 17:46                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-17 17:52                                               ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-10  9:31                             ` Michael Albinus
2017-12-18 17:16 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-12-18 19:52   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-12-19 17:47   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-19 22:00     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-12-20  1:08       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-20 11:41         ` Robert Pluim
2017-12-20 16:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 13:20             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-12-21 13:26               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-20 11:48         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-12-20 12:54         ` Andy Moreton
2017-12-20 13:16           ` Andy Moreton
2017-12-20 16:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-20 16:38             ` Andy Moreton
2017-12-21  1:15             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-21  1:39               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-21  8:30                 ` Robert Pluim
2017-12-21 13:12                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-12-21 16:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-21 10:54               ` Andy Moreton
2017-12-21 16:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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