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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222040 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > I just upgraded to GNU emacs 27. > > Now I admit that I package which is a bit hm old, feedmail. > > Now feedmail uses default-fill-column which in 27 does not exist any > more. I found this entry in ChangeLog.3 > 2016-11-07 Mark Oteiza Remove obsolete > default-FOO variables * etc/NEWS: Indicate the removed variables. * > lisp/emacs-lisp/edebug.el (edebug-outside-mark): Fix comment. * > lisp/subr.el (default-mode-line-format, * default-header-line-format): > (default-fill-column, default-cursor-type): > (default-enable-multibyte-characters): Remove obsolete declarations. > > So there is no hint how to deal with this situation. Why couldn't > variables be kept or at least some solution to be offered to guarantee > backwards compatibility. For example which variables substitute > default-fill-column, I presume it is fill-column. Since I use > different emacs version but the same init file, for the moment I will > add Those variables were marked obsolete in 23.2, which is 8 years ago. Also, I guess this means you're not using the feedmail that ships with Emacs, which uses fill-column instead of default-fill-column. Robert