From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelling Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:22:08 -0500 Message-ID: <87k1hdm2yn.fsf@fsf.org> References: <20190218122758037230128@bob.proulx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="86515"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: mu4e 1.0-alpha3; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Bob Proulx Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 05 22:54:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h1I0l-000MH7-F2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 22:54:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h1I0k-0004J4-DK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:54:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37347) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h1HVx-0006GU-8I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:22:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.fsf.org ([209.51.188.13]:48589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h1HVq-0002hS-U9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:22:13 -0500 Original-Received: from li.iankelling.org ([72.14.176.105]:57290 helo=mail.iankelling.org) by mail.fsf.org with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1h1HVq-0007ty-FC; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:22:10 -0500 Original-Received: from iank by mail.iankelling.org with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1h1HVo-0005Ao-MN; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:22:08 -0500 In-reply-to: <20190218122758037230128@bob.proulx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:53:50 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119556 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: > A PSA (Public Service Annoucement) for help-gnu-emacs. > > We have had several subscribers ask about a recent problem with > Google's Gmail rejecting the mailing list. Indeed about 30 Gmail > subscribers were bounced off the mailing list due to Google rejecting > mail from help-gnu-emacs. Other addresses were okay. One issue, I'm not sure if its the only one, is that due to a bug in our version of mailman, we are breaking dkim signatures in replies and that causes bounces when those replies are from from domains with a strct dmarc policy. I'm working on upgrading mailman on lists.gnu.org in order to fix this. Then I will investigate further and see if there is anything else that needs to be done and continue to upgrade and improve our email systems. Thank you to everyone who has had the patience to deal with this. I hope to have it fixed soon. I can't say exactly when as the FSF tech team tends to get randomized by urgent issues that come up and I'm not sure how much work its going to be. Are people here interested in me posting a progress update next week? If any of you are especially experienced with exim or mailman and interested in helping, perhaps by answering a question on irc if I run into trouble, email me. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org