From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#34939: Some minibuffer behaviour is annoying Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 23:50:37 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87k1gavmn6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <1879851553195601@myt3-2475c4d2af83.qloud-c.yandex.net> <87a7hasuz4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sgv2pz3c.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <877ecdbj29.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="202185"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: pinkanon pinkanon , 34939@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 23:12:22 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hBnBG-000qTD-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 23:12:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49931 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBnBD-0003CF-Ln for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:12:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn98-0001QR-C2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn92-0002lw-Nk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn90-0002iP-Jf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn90-0001Qw-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 34939 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 34939-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B34939.15543257865482 (code B ref 34939); Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 34939) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2019 21:09:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn8j-0001QK-NM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from cichlid.maple.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.214.36]:19303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hBn8h-0001QB-Do for 34939@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2019 17:09:44 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87F38C244D; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 21:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-4-94.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.4.94]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 13B548C2392; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 21:09:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a11.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.2); Wed, 03 Apr 2019 21:09:40 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Grain-Cooperative: 5634da17400ee392_1554325780688_1396834437 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1554325780688:2278906671 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1554325780688 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9AC82D22; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 14:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=linkov.net; bh=Qg399U ErC2pbcXdas2q8YrN68QU=; b=2j7M7zGI37I6EN5g2czpwP6BVXhDBUkkFLTa5n 22o++VHEsLwQOxiTucTQ7JHLH+uu4WJRXNJTV2xP3LvIFae/h3KHys5cAfiNQDmF JtRTCToKfCaJtIq1M7j6E3SweQvHisOhlpRsbFXbkTvbJkvUslsdzB/2Qdxx9UN1 VP2ek= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-99-202.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3718082D1E; Wed, 3 Apr 2019 14:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a11 In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 2 Apr 2019 00:53:59 +0300") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrtdefgdduvdelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhofhffjgfkfgggtgfgsehtkeertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeeluddruddvledrleelrddvtddvnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrjhhurhhtrgdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledrleelrddvtddvpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvthdpnhhrtghpthhtohepughguhhtohhvseihrghnuggvgidrrhhunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157137 Archived-At: >> It's impossible to override =E2=80=98message=E2=80=99 with something l= ike >> >> ... >> >> because =E2=80=98minibuffer-message=E2=80=99 has =E2=80=98message=E2=80= =99 calls >> and this goes into infinite recursion. > > We could change minibuffer-message and introduce a new function that wo= uld > do "raw" output, to be used in there. And in 'message' too. IOW, using the same design as discussed for i18n where gettext is called from a subfunction format-message, not from 'message'.