From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 17:28:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87k1elm9g1.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <6c23e6a7-91b9-92db-0f2d-ac11fdf5a35c@yandex.ru> <83woip9mgs.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvdr8yxd.fsf@gnu.org> <874l5rnwsp.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y333m2yz.fsf@telefonica.net> <87h89qtquc.fsf@mail.de> <87r28umgo8.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190520064748.GA12888@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="183293"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 20 17:29:16 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDz-000laL-SL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 17:29:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37209 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDy-0000Rf-S4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 11:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDg-0000Qm-7e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 11:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDf-00048k-Dd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 11:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=34742 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDf-00047u-6R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 11:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hSkDd-000l5Q-Kj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2019 17:28:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:lM7h/O7UjjejtB23NjQHsfaOlxo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120564 Archived-At: writes: > I think one of the biggest "failures" in this monster thread is, IMHO, > the failure to realize that different people are... different. > > I keep reading things like "ergonomic", "consistent", etc. as if the > authors had the ultimate yardstick for that. > > Go tell a pro violinist that the way she holds her violin is unergonomic. Musculoskeletal & nervous injuries are common among musicians, pro and not-pro. Not so common as among keyboard users, because the former, as part of their learning, are instructed about correct postures and exercises. Ergonomics is a well established discipline. Not exact, but mature enough to say with a very high level of confidence that certain practices are harmful.