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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250302 Archived-At: On 14 May 2020, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >On 14.05.2020 05:18, excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions. wrote: >> How's this for a start? > >I like it. > >I'd retouch a few phrases, but overall seems like a solid improvement. +1 to what Dmitry said. Editing quibbles aside, this is on the right track. It presents the important things a new user should understand when she first enters the Emacs universe. Thanks!