From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ricardo Wurmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Include ivy + counsel in Emacs core? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255562 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions. wri= tes: > was ever considered the inclusion of ivy + counsel in the Emacs core > distribution? > > ivy+counsel it's a quality package that reached already noticeable > popularity. Does fuzzy completion with vertical output display, and its > counsel-M-X shows also the command key binding (feature I consider for > my experience a _game changer_ for softening the learning curve). > Finally it's already in ELPA. As someone who has used ivy for several months I should note that it doesn=E2=80=99t work well with =E2=80=9CM-x rgrep=E2=80=9D (it tries to com= plete files when asked for a pattern); see also https://github.com/abo-abo/swiper/issues/286 There are also a couple of things that might trip up new users, for example the need to hit C-j to confirm a new file name instead of selecting a similar matching file name (which is what RET gives you). While I think it=E2=80=99s pretty nice in general (and I do prefer it over = Helm) and an improvement over the default of no completion, I do feel it=E2=80=99= s a little =E2=80=A6 invasive or coercive in that it=E2=80=99s a bit awkward to= bypass it. --=20 Ricardo