From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14086: 24.3.50; `substitute-command-keys': inappropriate "(that binding is currently shadowed by another mode)" Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 04:41:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0w690gg.fsf@web.de> References: <0FF2F801815441C3B5385CE3202E16A0@us.oracle.com> <87364basd9.fsf@gnus.org> <09025e7c-3f7b-4e39-b573-776fba837ceb@default> <87o8li933g.fsf@web.de> <726d8e32-8682-4d03-a558-c02b31c5e679@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25766"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 14086@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 04 04:43:43 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kOtzz-0006cA-4F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 04 Oct 2020 04:41:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <726d8e32-8682-4d03-a558-c02b31c5e679@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 3 Oct 2020 19:09:17 -0700 (PDT)") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QaBgrVGPpRkP1EsbLT9Nbj/AsudcqF80hzj2aEpPUi83Om6s1mL XEzbaXKGQCC+/ES7dKsc122wU5n8LxOokeK2ZOCrFrogpIDz1YQeyerqiV6vVzlgpENBau4 lQrpHSmjzeFhQ0II8u9CLK3gJP3ndeWn8wctbWWdsLWRmsbtSnXzvJM+ftCmQqg2SN3oHuF Gk7+DYKtBiLMaMmuOsQgA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:5dd8roXdCtQ=:8RNNUcxuZMThDliXcns7RZ wnWnAcDF4J3OAfHjxpOk3FD074ytoJ4KtrA2JJn+9M5XUiVNbye+szYJxCHs5REvkwyGtG8F/ G7QxUd+qV7bn04piWsjLCYVKNMBnl73DZsqjYxTPA38SPhRXmoRvZjp0bY+lcFBcWQeK8211S XvFotIHdL194/5LBe4juhGeMt3ZmPk7kKlzoBBKxp/+0Jd2WP/Q9SWLAFaiFb/oS4XuJ9dDLx bG8ulIVxPcqIU/QVqCqyMtrJklq/rht4jLrqmnNlxhRS3A4xQOgPAGOKZ+uv2NUqzTqAuk4yJ EoU3nB7W06dONxiNbcaCd9xwRlkE2gxQbNT6Scir5BJdjwdISv3t5fjw8RICdQSl0AXSe295P iugRRE92KO2qTrRG+5wUqvFRjGFSmktWj6ccNJ0OxAq8fFkyl3/8fsPGxAsopHrNuim/7ATOv zIEGOmYZ38z08pybTB3d4FYGKzMx9KZX5M6pTYSOhmAv3h6IjKCF4r3gjPIfMkhbwrDvXedS9 /TQZVlZ6aJlDzfRv3n7NiUpYct2VKfDovMMiSQoMhjFuAxY2xwA33ldDuz9Gk0jKcHKcFsccP 8IkPDys8hDDLJzvLepV+aTDkl4yu9Sp6KFXlX5OeK1CkxljOFV1QEpzclvBRMThxUeIKQssb6 lkdEWXJbCERaXCCMPiAyfOGa/URFWWTpike2G6aKiGy8tGhNJFkwMQxeUs+Q5elwWrtNiVATx 9uTnmfHrs6mf+P5RsSZi/ZjpRLTjf3pyj7Wr3PKwEuZFrpf6cfeJCLIUngadmUJXBKefFHAX X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189737 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Not sure what you're saying. Why should we show the > shadowed binding? That's the question I was asking > there. How it comes to be shown was the subject > above that in the post. But should it be shown? > If so, why? It's debatable, sure. But sometimes it's useful info, don't you think? If you unbind the shadowing key to nil, the other binding will take effect, so in that sense it is meaningful to the behavior of the keymap. Do you think we should not list shadowed bindings (and why)? Michael.