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* A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
@ 2021-02-26  4:32 Yuan Fu
  2021-02-26  7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-02-26  4:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

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I’ve been playing around with undo recently. I used primitive-undo to undo some entries in the buffer-undo-list, and a ton of (#marker . -1) was added to the buffer-undo-list:

(nil
 ("a" . 27)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
 (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)

… hundreds of this.

Any idea of what is happening? What is this marker?

I don’t expect anyone to look at my code, but if you want to see it, here it is:


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;;; vundo.el --- Visual undo tree      -*- lexical-binding: t; -*-

;; Author: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>

;;; This file is NOT part of GNU Emacs

;;; Commentary:
;;

;;; Code:
;;

(require 'pcase)
(require 'cl-lib)
(require 'seq)

(defun vundo--setup-test-buffer ()
  "Setup and pop a testing buffer.
TYPE is the type of buffer you want."
  (interactive)
  (let ((buf (get-buffer "*vundo-test*")))
    (if buf (kill-buffer buf))
    (setq buf (get-buffer-create "*vundo-test*"))
    (pop-to-buffer buf)))

;;; Undo list to mod list

(cl-defstruct vundo-m
  "A modification in undo history.
This object serves two purpose: it represents a modification in
undo history, and it also represents the buffer state after the
modification."
  (idx
   nil
   :type integer
   :documentation "The index of this modification in history.")
  (children
   nil
   :type proper-list
   :documentation "Children in tree.")
  (parent
   nil
   :type vundo-m
   :documentation "Parent in tree.")
  (prev-eqv
   nil
   :type vundo-m
   :documentation "The previous equivalent state.")
  (next-eqv
   nil
   :type vundo-m
   :documentation "The next equivalent state.")
  (undo-list
   nil
   :type cons
   :documentation "The undo-list at this modification.")
  (point
   nil
   :type integer
   :documentation "Marks the text node in the vundo buffer if drawn."))

(defun vundo--mod-list-from (undo-list &optional n mod-list)
  "Generate and return a modification list from UNDO-LIST.
If N non-nil, only look at the first N entries in UNDO-LIST.
If MOD-LIST non-nil, extend on MOD-LIST."
  (let ((bound (or n (length undo-list)))
        (uidx 0)
        (mod-list (or mod-list (list (make-vundo-m))))
        new-mlist)
    (while (and (consp undo-list) (< uidx bound))
      ;; Skip leading nils.
      (while (and (< uidx bound) (null (nth uidx undo-list)))
        (cl-incf uidx))
      ;; Add modification.
      (if (< uidx bound)
          (push (make-vundo-m :undo-list (nthcdr uidx undo-list))
                new-mlist))
      ;; Skip through the content of this modification.
      (while (nth uidx undo-list)
        (cl-incf uidx)))
    (append mod-list new-mlist)))

(defun vundo--update-mapping (mod-list &optional hash-table n)
  "Update each modification in MOD-LIST.
Add :idx for each modification, map :undo-list back to each
modification in HASH-TABLE. If N non-nil, start from the Nth
modification in MOD-LIST. Return HASH-TABLE."
  (let ((hash-table (or hash-table
                        (make-hash-table
                         :test #'eq :weakness t :size 200))))
    (cl-loop for mod in (nthcdr (or n 0) mod-list)
             for midx = (or n 0) then (1+ midx)
             do (cl-assert (null (vundo-m-idx mod)))
             do (cl-assert (null (gethash (vundo-m-undo-list mod)
                                          hash-table)))
             do (setf (vundo-m-idx mod) midx)
             do (puthash (vundo-m-undo-list mod) mod hash-table))
    hash-table))

;; (setq lst '(6 5 4 nil 3 2 1))

;; (setq con (vundo--mod-list-from lst))
;; (setq mlist (car con))
;; (setq hash (cdr con))

;; (setq newlst (append '(9 8 7 nil) lst))
;; (setq ncon (vundo--mod-list-incr newlst mlist hash))
;; (setq nmlist (car ncon))
;; (setq nhash (cdr ncon))

;; (setq nnlst (nthcdr 4 lst))
;; (setq nncon (vundo--mod-list-incr nnlst mlist hash))
;; (setq nnlist (car nncon))
;; (setq nhash (cdr ncon))


;;; Mod list to eqv list

(defun vundo--eqv-list-of (mod)
  "Return all the modifications equivalent to MOD."
  (while (vundo-m-prev-eqv mod)
    (cl-assert (not (eq mod (vundo-m-prev-eqv mod))))
    (setq mod (vundo-m-prev-eqv mod)))
  ;; At the first mod in the equiv chain.
  (let ((eqv-list (list mod)))
    (while (vundo-m-next-eqv mod)
      (cl-assert (not (eq mod (vundo-m-next-eqv mod))))
      (setq mod (vundo-m-next-eqv mod))
      (push mod eqv-list))
    (reverse eqv-list)))

(defun vundo--eqv-merge (mlist)
  "Connect modifications in MLIST to be in the same equivalence list.
Order is reserved."
  (cl-loop for idx from 0 to (1- (length mlist))
           for this = (nth idx mlist)
           for next = (nth (1+ idx) mlist)
           for prev = nil then (nth (1- idx) mlist)
           do (setf (vundo-m-prev-eqv this) prev)
           do (setf (vundo-m-next-eqv this) next)))

(defun vundo--sort-mod (mlist &optional reverse)
  "Return sorted modifications in MLIST by their idx...
...in ascending order. If REVERSE non-nil, sort in descending
order."
  (seq-sort (if reverse
                (lambda (m1 m2)
                  (> (vundo-m-idx m1) (vundo-m-idx m2)))
              (lambda (m1 m2)
                (< (vundo-m-idx m1) (vundo-m-idx m2))))
            mlist))

(defun vundo--eqv-merge-mod (m1 m2)
  "Put M1 and M2 into the same equivalence list."
  (let ((l1 (vundo--eqv-list-of m1))
        (l2 (vundo--eqv-list-of m2)))
    (vundo--eqv-merge (vundo--sort-mod (cl-union l1 l2)))))

(defun vundo--build-tree (mod-list mod-hash &optional from)
  "Connect equivalent modifications and build the tree in MOD-LIST.
MOD-HASH maps undo-lists to modifications.
If FROM non-nil, build from FORM-th modification in MOD-LIST."
  (cl-loop
   for m from (or from 0) to (1- (length mod-list))
   for mod = (nth m mod-list)
   ;; If MOD is an undo, the buffer state it represents is equivalent
   ;; to a previous one.
   do (if-let ((prev-undo (undo--last-change-was-undo-p
                           (vundo-m-undo-list mod))))
          (if (eq prev-undo t)
              ;; FIXME: t means this undo is region-undo, currently
              ;; for the convenience of testing we regard t as undo to
              ;; the beginning of history.
              (vundo--eqv-merge-mod (nth 0 mod-list) mod)
            (if-let ((prev-m (gethash prev-undo mod-hash)))
                (vundo--eqv-merge-mod prev-m mod)
              (error "PREV-M shouldn't be nil")))
        ;; If MOD isn't an undo, it represents a new buffer state, we
        ;; connect M-1 with M, where M-1 is the parent and M is the
        ;; child.
        (unless (eq m 0)
          (let* ((m-1 (nth (1- m) mod-list))
                 ;; TODO: may need to optimize.
                 (min-eqv-mod (car (vundo--eqv-list-of m-1))))
            (setf (vundo-m-parent mod) min-eqv-mod)
            (let ((children (vundo-m-children min-eqv-mod)))
              ;; If everything goes right, we should never encounter
              ;; this.
              (cl-assert (not (memq mod children)))
              (setf (vundo-m-children min-eqv-mod)
                    (vundo--sort-mod (cons mod children) 'reverse))))))))

;;; Draw tree

(defun vundo--replace-at-col (from to col)
  "Replace FROM at COL with TO in each line of current buffer.
If a line is not COL columns long, skip that line."
  (save-excursion
    (let ((run t))
      (goto-char (point-min))
      (while run
        (move-to-column col)
        (if (and (eq (current-column) col)
                 (looking-at (regexp-quote from)))
            (replace-match to))
        ;; If ‘forward-line’ returns 0, we haven’t hit the end of
        ;; buffer.
        (setq run (eq (forward-line) 0))))))

(defun vundo--put-node-at-point (node)
  "Store the corresponding NODE as text property at point."
  (put-text-property (1- (point)) (point)
                     'vundo-node
                     node))

(defun vundo--get-node-at-point ()
  "Retrieve the corresponding NODE as text property at point."
  (plist-get (text-properties-at (1- (point)))
             'vundo-node))

(defun vundo--draw-tree (mod-list)
  "Draw the tree in MOD-LIST in current buffer."
  (let* ((root (nth 0 mod-list))
         (node-queue (list root))
         (inhibit-read-only t))
    (erase-buffer)
    (while node-queue
      (let* ((node (pop node-queue))
             (children (vundo-m-children node))
             (parent (vundo-m-parent node))
             ;; NODE is the nth child of PARENT.
             (my-idx (if parent
                         (seq-position (vundo-m-children parent) node)))
             ;; NODE is the last child of PARENT.
             (node-last-child-p
              (if parent
                  (eq node (car (last (vundo-m-children parent)))))))
        ;; Go to parent.
        (if parent (goto-char (vundo-m-point parent)))
        ;; TODO: more compact tree.
        (cond ((null parent)
               (insert "●"))
              ((eq my-idx 0)
               (insert "──●"))
              (t
               (let ((col (max 0 (1- (current-column)))))
                 ;; New line at bottom.
                 (goto-char (point-max))
                 (insert "\n")
                 ;; Go under parent node in the new line.
                 (indent-to-column col)
                 ;; Connect parent down.
                 (vundo--replace-at-col " " "│" col)
                 (if node-last-child-p
                     (insert "└──●")
                   (insert "├──●")))))
        ;; Store point so we can later come back to this node.
        (setf (vundo-m-point node) (point))
        ;; Associate the text node in buffer with the node object.
        (vundo--put-node-at-point node)
        ;; Depth-first search.
        (setq node-queue (append children node-queue))))))

;;; Vundo buffer and invocation

(defun vundo--buffer ()
  "Return the vundo buffer."
  (get-buffer-create " *vundo tree*"))

(defun vundo--kill-buffer-if-point-left (window)
  "Kill the vundo buffer if point left WINDOW.
WINDOW is the window that was/is displaying the vundo buffer."
  (if (and (eq (window-buffer window) (vundo--buffer))
           (not (eq window (selected-window))))
      (with-selected-window window
        (kill-buffer-and-window))))

(defvar vundo--mode-map
  (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
    (define-key map (kbd "f") #'vundo-forward)
    (define-key map (kbd "b") #'vundo-backward)
    (define-key map (kbd "n") #'vundo-next)
    (define-key map (kbd "p") #'vundo-previous)
    (define-key map (kbd "q") #'kill-buffer-and-window)
    (define-key map (kbd "i") #'vundo--inspect)
    (define-key map (kbd "c") #'vundo--show-cursor)
    map)
  "Keymap for ‘vundo--mode’.")

(define-derived-mode vundo--mode special-mode
  "Vundo" "Mode for displaying the undo tree."
  (setq mode-line-format nil
        truncate-lines t
        cursor-type nil)
  ;; If you leave the vundo buffer for the orig buffer and do some
  ;; modifications, you have to refresh the buffer. We can
  ;; auto-refresh or auto-quit, I choose to auto-quit.
  ;; (add-hook 'window-state-change-functions
  ;;           #'vundo--kill-buffer-if-point-left
  ;;           0 t)
  )

(defvar-local vundo--mod-list nil
  "Modification list generated by ‘vundo--mod-list-from’.")
(defvar-local vundo--mod-hash nil
  "Modification hashmap generated by ‘vundo--mod-list-from’.")
(defvar-local vundo--undo-list nil
  "Original buffer's `buffer-undo-list'.")
(defvar-local vundo--orig-buffer nil
  "Vundo buffer displays the undo tree for this buffer.")
(defvar-local vundo--latest-node nil
  "The latest node.")

(defun vundo--mod-list-trim (mod-list n)
  "Remove MODS from MOD-LIST.
Keep the first N modifications."
  (dolist (mod (nthcdr (1+ n) mod-list))
    (let ((parent (vundo-m-parent mod))
          (eqv-list (vundo--eqv-list-of mod)))
      (when parent
        (setf (vundo-m-children parent)
              (remove mod (vundo-m-children parent))))
      (when eqv-list
        (vundo--eqv-merge (remove mod eqv-list)))))
  (seq-subseq mod-list 0 (1+ n)))

(defun vundo--refresh-buffer
    (orig-buffer vundo-buffer &optional incremental)
  "Refresh VUNDO-BUFFER with the undo history of ORIG-BUFFER.
If INCREMENTAL non-nil, reuse some date."
  ;; If ‘buffer-undo-list’ is nil, then we do nothing.
  (with-current-buffer vundo-buffer
    (unless incremental
      (setq vundo--undo-list nil
            vundo--mod-list nil
            vundo--mod-hash nil))
    (let ((undo-list (buffer-local-value
                      'buffer-undo-list orig-buffer))
          (inhibit-read-only t)
          mod-list mod-hash)
      (if (> (length undo-list) (length vundo--undo-list))
          ;; Adding.
          (let ((diff (- (length undo-list)
                         (length vundo--undo-list))))
            (cl-assert (eq vundo--undo-list (nthcdr diff undo-list)))
            (setq mod-list (vundo--mod-list-from
                            undo-list diff vundo--mod-list)
                  mod-hash (vundo--update-mapping
                            mod-list vundo--mod-hash
                            (length vundo--mod-list)))
            ;; Build tree.
            (vundo--build-tree mod-list mod-hash
                               (length vundo--mod-list)))
        ;; Removing.
        (let ((ul undo-list))
          (while (null (car ul))
            (setq undo-list (cdr ul)))
          (if-let* ((new-tail (gethash ul vundo--mod-hash))
                    (idx (vundo-m-idx new-tail)))
              (setq mod-list (vundo--mod-list-trim vundo--mod-list idx)
                    mod-hash vundo--mod-hash)
            (error "Couldn't find modification"))))
      ;; Render buffer.
      (vundo--mode)
      (setq vundo--mod-list mod-list
            vundo--mod-hash mod-hash
            vundo--undo-list undo-list
            vundo--orig-buffer orig-buffer)
      (vundo--draw-tree mod-list)
      ;; Highlight current node.
      (let* ((last-m (car (last mod-list)))
             (node (car (vundo--eqv-list-of last-m))))
        (setq vundo--latest-node node)
        (goto-char (vundo-m-point node))
        (put-text-property (1- (point)) (point) 'face 'error)))))

(defun vundo ()
  "Display visual undo for current buffer."
  (interactive)
  (if (and buffer-undo-list (not (eq buffer-undo-list t)))
      (let* ((vundo-buf (vundo--buffer))
             (orig-buf (current-buffer)))
        (vundo--refresh-buffer orig-buf vundo-buf)
        (select-window
         (display-buffer-in-side-window
          vundo-buf
          '((side . bottom)
            (slot . 1)
            (window-height . 5))))
        (goto-char (vundo-m-point vundo--latest-node))
        (fit-window-to-buffer nil 5))
    (message "There is no undo history")))

;;; Traverse undo tree

(defun vundo--calculate-shortest-route (from to)
  "Calculate the shortest route from FROM to TO node.
Here they represent the source and dest buffer state. Both SETs
are an equivalence set of states. Return (SOURCE . DEST), meaning
you should undo the modifications from DEST to SOURCE. "
  (let (route-list)
    ;; Find all valid routes.
    (dolist (source (vundo--eqv-list-of from))
      (dolist (dest (vundo--eqv-list-of to))
        ;; We only allow route in this direction.
        (if (> (vundo-m-idx source) (vundo-m-idx dest))
            (push (cons source dest) route-list))))
    ;; Find the shortest route.
    (car
     (seq-sort
      (lambda (r1 r2)
        ;; I.e., distance between SOURCE and DEST in R1
        ;; compare against distance in R2.
        (< (- (vundo-m-idx (car r1)) (vundo-m-idx (cdr r1)))
           (- (vundo-m-idx (car r2)) (vundo-m-idx (cdr r2)))))
      route-list))))

(defun vundo--list-subtract (l1 l2)
  "Return L1 - L2.

E.g.,

\(vundo--list-subtract '(1 2 3 4) '(3 4))
=> (1 2)"
  (let ((len1 (length l1))
        (len2 (length l2)))
    (cl-assert (> len1 len2))
    (seq-subseq l1 0 (- len1 len2))))

(defun vundo--move-to-node (current dest orig-buffer mod-list)
  "Move from CURRENT node to DEST node by undoing in ORIG-BUFFER.
ORIG-BUFFER must be at CURRENT state. MOD-LIST is the list you
get from ‘vundo--mod-list-from’. You should refresh vundo buffer
after calling this function."
  (if-let* ((route (vundo--calculate-shortest-route
                    current dest)))
      (let* ((source (car route))
             (dest (cdr route))
             ;; The complete undo-list that stops at SOURCE.
             (undo-list-at-source (vundo-m-undo-list source))
             ;; The complete undo-list that stops at DEST.
             (undo-list-at-dest (vundo-m-undo-list dest))
             (step (- (vundo-m-idx source) (vundo-m-idx dest)))
             ;; We will undo these modifications.
             (planned-undo (vundo--list-subtract
                            undo-list-at-source
                            undo-list-at-dest)))
        (with-current-buffer orig-buffer
          ;; Undo. This will undo modifications in PLANNED-UNDO and
          ;; add new entries to ‘buffer-undo-list’.
          (primitive-undo step planned-undo)
          ;; TODO: optimize this (finding max)
          (let ((latest-buffer-state-idx
                 ;; If MOD has no prev-eqv, it is not an undo, and
                 ;; represents a unique buffer state. Among all the
                 ;; MODs that represents a unique buffer state, we
                 ;; find the latest one.
                 (seq-max (mapcar #'vundo-m-idx
                                  (seq-filter
                                   (lambda (mod)
                                     (null (vundo-m-prev-eqv mod)))
                                   mod-list)))))
            (if-let ((possible-trim-point
                      (cl-loop for node in (vundo--eqv-list-of dest)
                               if (>= (vundo-m-idx node)
                                      latest-buffer-state-idx)
                               return node
                               finally return nil)))
                ;; Can trim undo-list, trim to DEST.
                (setq buffer-undo-list
                      (vundo-m-undo-list possible-trim-point))
              ;; Can’t trim undo-list, update ‘undo-equiv-table’.
              (let ((list buffer-undo-list))
                ;; Strip leading nils.
                (while (eq (car list) nil)
	          (setq list (cdr list)))
                ;; FIXME: currently we regard t as pointing to root node.
                (puthash list (or undo-list-at-dest t)
                         undo-equiv-table))))
          (if (> (length buffer-undo-list) 10000)
              (debug))
          (message "%s -> %s: %s steps, now %s entries, undo: %s"
                   (vundo-m-idx source)
                   (vundo-m-idx dest)
                   (length planned-undo)
                   (length buffer-undo-list)
                   planned-undo)
          (with-selected-window (get-buffer-window)
            (set-window-point nil (point))
            (recenter))))
    (error "No possible route")))

(defun vundo-forward (arg)
  "Move forward ARG nodes in the undo tree.
If ARG < 0, move backward"
  (interactive "p")
  (let ((step (abs arg)))
    (let* ((step-fn (if (> arg 0)
                        (lambda (node)
                          (or (car (vundo-m-children node))
                              node))
                      (lambda (node)
                        (or (vundo-m-parent node) node))))
           (node vundo--latest-node)
           (dest node))
      (while (> step 0)
        (setq dest (funcall step-fn dest))
        (cl-decf step))
      (unless (eq node dest)
        (vundo--move-to-node
         node dest vundo--orig-buffer vundo--mod-list)
        (vundo--refresh-buffer
         vundo--orig-buffer (current-buffer)
         ;; 'incremental
         )))))

(defun vundo-backward (arg)
  "Move back ARG nodes in the undo tree.
If ARG < 0, move forward."
  (interactive "p")
  (vundo-forward (- arg)))

(defun vundo-next (arg)
  "Move to node below the current one. Move ARG steps."
  (interactive "p")
  (let* ((node vundo--latest-node)
         (parent (vundo-m-parent node)))
    ;; While have parent but no sibling, go up.
    (while (and parent (<= (length (vundo-m-children parent)) 1))
      (setq node parent
            parent (vundo-m-parent node)))
    ;; Move to next/previous sibling.
    (when parent
      (let* ((siblings (vundo-m-children parent))
             (idx (seq-position siblings node))
             (new-idx (+ idx arg))
             ;; TODO: Move as far as possible instead of not
             ;; moving when ARG is too large.
             (dest (or (nth new-idx siblings) node)))
        (unless (eq node dest)
          (vundo--move-to-node
           node dest vundo--orig-buffer vundo--mod-list)
          (vundo--refresh-buffer
           vundo--orig-buffer (current-buffer)
           ;; 'incremental
           ))))))

(defun vundo-previous (arg)
  "Move to node above the current one. Move ARG steps."
  (interactive "p")
  (vundo-next (- arg)))

;;; Debug

(defun vundo--inspect ()
  "Print some useful info at point"
  (interactive)
  (let ((node (vundo--get-node-at-point)))
    (message "States: %s Children: %s Parent: %s"
             (mapcar (lambda (mod)
                       (vundo-m-idx mod))
                     (vundo--eqv-list-of node))
             (and (vundo-m-children node)
                  (mapcar #'vundo-m-idx (vundo-m-children node)))
             (and (vundo-m-parent node)
                  (vundo-m-idx (vundo-m-parent node))))))

(defun vundo--show-cursor ()
  "Make cursor visible."
  (interactive)
  (setq cursor-type t))


(provide 'vundo)

;;; vundo.el ends here

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The idea is to display an undo-tree and move between nodes with f/b/n/p. You can enable it with M-x vundo RET.

Yuan



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26  4:32 A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list Yuan Fu
@ 2021-02-26  7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2021-02-26 13:20   ` Yuan Fu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-02-26  7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 23:32:33 -0500
> 
> I’ve been playing around with undo recently. I used primitive-undo to undo some entries in the buffer-undo-list, and a ton of (#marker . -1) was added to the buffer-undo-list:
> 
> (nil
>  ("a" . 27)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
> 
> … hundreds of this.
> 
> Any idea of what is happening? What is this marker?

Doesn't the ELisp manual provide an answer to that question?  It does
describe the structure and the meaning of such an element in
undo-list.




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26  7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2021-02-26 13:20   ` Yuan Fu
  2021-02-26 13:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2021-02-26 15:49     ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-02-26 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs


>> (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
>> 
>> … hundreds of this.
>> 
>> Any idea of what is happening? What is this marker?
> 
> Doesn't the ELisp manual provide an answer to that question?  It does
> describe the structure and the meaning of such an element in
> undo-list.

I know what they mean but it is quite strange to have some many of (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1) in buffer-undo-list—it is a new buffer and I didn’t create any marker in it, so it shouldn’t have hundreds of markers to move.

Yuan

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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26 13:20   ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-02-26 13:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2021-02-26 17:48       ` Yuan Fu
  2021-02-26 15:49     ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-02-26 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:20:51 -0500
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
>  (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1)
> 
>  … hundreds of this.
> 
>  Any idea of what is happening? What is this marker?
> 
>  Doesn't the ELisp manual provide an answer to that question?  It does
>  describe the structure and the meaning of such an element in
>  undo-list.
> 
> I know what they mean but it is quite strange to have some many of (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1) in
> buffer-undo-list—it is a new buffer and I didn’t create any marker in it, so it shouldn’t have hundreds of
> markers to move.

hard to say without seeing the code which produces this effect.  What
is at position 27 in buffer 'a'?



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26 13:20   ` Yuan Fu
  2021-02-26 13:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2021-02-26 15:49     ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2021-02-26 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> I know what they mean but it is quite strange to have some many of (#<marker
> at 27 in a> . -1) in buffer-undo-list—it is a new buffer and I didn’t create
> any marker in it, so it shouldn’t have hundreds of markers to move.

In many cases, most markers are created implicitly as part of overlays.
Are there overlays in the buffer?  You can check that with `overlays-in`.


        Stefan




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26 13:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2021-02-26 17:48       ` Yuan Fu
  2021-02-26 21:48         ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-02-26 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

>> 
>> I know what they mean but it is quite strange to have some many of (#<marker at 27 in a> . -1) in
>> buffer-undo-list—it is a new buffer and I didn’t create any marker in it, so it shouldn’t have hundreds of
>> markers to move.
> 
> hard to say without seeing the code which produces this effect.  What
> is at position 27 in buffer 'a’?

I just opened a fundamental buffer and held on ‘a’ to insert a bunch of a’s. So it’s just the character ‘a’.

Turns out it’s not my code’s fault, I bisected my configuration and disabled winner-mode, then everything is back to normal. I looked at winner.el but it doesn’t seem to create markers, only accessing marker returned by window-prev-buffers (ah, so that marker is probably the window’s point marker). So I’m not sure what went wrong.

If you start emacs -q, enable winner-mode, insert a bunch of text, and undo all of them, you should see many marker entries in buffer-undo-list. (More specifically, I inserted a line of ‘a’, copied the line and pasted a bunch of them.)

> In many cases, most markers are created implicitly as part of overlays.
> Are there overlays in the buffer?  You can check that with `overlays-in`.

Thanks, I checked and there is no overlays. (Now I think they are windows’ point markers.)

Yuan




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26 17:48       ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-02-26 21:48         ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-02-27  7:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-02-26 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> Thanks, I checked and there is no overlays. (Now I think they are
> windows’ point markers.)

First: The effect is easy to reproduce: In a fresh emacs -Q, enable
winner-mode, and insert a bunch of a's into the buffer.  Then `undo'
(just hit C-_) until they are all gone, and look at the value of
`buffer-undo-list'.  There I see the markers.

And I also think your analysis is correct: winner-mode adds something to
`post-command-hook' that calls `winner-remember' which creates a fresh
window-configuration.  In post-command-hook!  Every time.  These are not
all kept, no, but their markers (point and mark positions, all different
objects, I have checked that), at least some of them, seem to live long
enough to get part of buffer-undo-list when undoing.  Once they are
there, they can't even be garbage collected any more, because they are
now referenced by a living lisp object.

This is...not so good, right?

Michael.




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-26 21:48         ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-02-27  7:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
  2021-02-28  2:38             ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2021-02-27  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

> From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:48:51 +0100
> 
> And I also think your analysis is correct: winner-mode adds something to
> `post-command-hook' that calls `winner-remember' which creates a fresh
> window-configuration.  In post-command-hook!  Every time.  These are not
> all kept, no, but their markers (point and mark positions, all different
> objects, I have checked that), at least some of them, seem to live long
> enough to get part of buffer-undo-list when undoing.  Once they are
> there, they can't even be garbage collected any more, because they are
> now referenced by a living lisp object.
> 
> This is...not so good, right?

No, it isn't, IMO.  Please report this as a bug.



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-27  7:08           ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2021-02-28  2:38             ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-02-28  4:20               ` Yuan Fu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-02-28  2:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > This is...not so good, right?
>
> No, it isn't, IMO.  Please report this as a bug.

Wait a moment.  I didn't check before, but now, and found the recipe
leads to the same result if I don't enable winner-mode.  I just insert
a's into any buffer and undo the insertions and get the markers.  @Yuan:
Are you sure this is related to winner-mode?  Don't you get the markers
in buffer-undo-list with winner-mode off?

But I think we have a problem in any case, so I'll make a bug report
when we have all information that might be relevant.

Thanks,

Michael.




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-28  2:38             ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-02-28  4:20               ` Yuan Fu
  2021-03-01  0:21                 ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-02-28  4:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs



> On Feb 27, 2021, at 9:38 PM, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>>> This is...not so good, right?
>> 
>> No, it isn't, IMO.  Please report this as a bug.
> 
> Wait a moment.  I didn't check before, but now, and found the recipe
> leads to the same result if I don't enable winner-mode.  I just insert
> a's into any buffer and undo the insertions and get the markers.  @Yuan:
> Are you sure this is related to winner-mode?  Don't you get the markers
> in buffer-undo-list with winner-mode off?

Hmmm, I just tried again and alas, I get the markers even without winner-mode. For some reason disabling winner-mode solved it when I last tested it. How strange.

> 
> But I think we have a problem in any case, so I'll make a bug report
> when we have all information that might be relevant.
> 

That’ll be great, thanks.

Yuan


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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-02-28  4:20               ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-03-01  0:21                 ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-03-01 17:54                   ` Yuan Fu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-03-01  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> Hmmm, I just tried again and alas, I get the markers even without
> winner-mode. For some reason disabling winner-mode solved it when I
> last tested it. How strange.

Ok.

Now I used this:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun count-markers-in-buffer-undo-list ()
  "Message number of (different) markers in `buffer-undo-list'."
  (interactive)
  (require 'cl-lib)
  (message "%d" (length
                 (cl-delete-duplicates
                  (seq-filter #'markerp (flatten-tree (copy-tree buffer-undo-list)))
                  :test #'eq))))
#+end_src

to get the number of different markers in `buffer-undo-list', after
reproducing the recipe.  The answer was always "1".  Just a bunch of
entries referring to one and the same marker.  That seems sane.

Are you able to provide a more pathological recipe?

Regards,

Michael.




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-01  0:21                 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-03-01 17:54                   ` Yuan Fu
  2021-03-01 18:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
  2021-03-01 23:25                     ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-03-01 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs



> On Feb 28, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Hmmm, I just tried again and alas, I get the markers even without
>> winner-mode. For some reason disabling winner-mode solved it when I
>> last tested it. How strange.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> Now I used this:
> 
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> (defun count-markers-in-buffer-undo-list ()
>  "Message number of (different) markers in `buffer-undo-list'."
>  (interactive)
>  (require 'cl-lib)
>  (message "%d" (length
>                 (cl-delete-duplicates
>                  (seq-filter #'markerp (flatten-tree (copy-tree buffer-undo-list)))
>                  :test #'eq))))
> #+end_src
> 
> to get the number of different markers in `buffer-undo-list', after
> reproducing the recipe.  The answer was always "1".  Just a bunch of
> entries referring to one and the same marker.  That seems sane.
> 
> Are you able to provide a more pathological recipe?
> 

Using the same recipe, I got 18, the number of marker entries in each undo step. Also, even if the answer is 1, it is not ok because that shortens the number of undo a buffer can record by a factor of n (e.g., 18 in my case).

Yuan


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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-01 17:54                   ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-03-01 18:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
  2021-03-01 23:25                     ` Michael Heerdegen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2021-03-01 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

>>> Hmmm, I just tried again and alas, I get the markers even without
>>> winner-mode. For some reason disabling winner-mode solved it when I
>>> last tested it. How strange.
>> 
>> Ok.
>> 
>> Now I used this:
>> 
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>> (defun count-markers-in-buffer-undo-list ()
>>  "Message number of (different) markers in `buffer-undo-list'."
>>  (interactive)
>>  (require 'cl-lib)
>>  (message "%d" (length
>>                 (cl-delete-duplicates
>>                  (seq-filter #'markerp (flatten-tree (copy-tree buffer-undo-list)))
>>                  :test #'eq))))
>> #+end_src
>> 
>> to get the number of different markers in `buffer-undo-list', after
>> reproducing the recipe.  The answer was always "1".  Just a bunch of
>> entries referring to one and the same marker.  That seems sane.
>> 
>> Are you able to provide a more pathological recipe?
>> 
>
> Using the same recipe, I got 18, the number of marker entries in each undo
> step. Also, even if the answer is 1, it is not ok because that shortens the
> number of undo a buffer can record by a factor of n (e.g., 18 in my case).

IIUC this is the `window-point` marker being moved each time.  We could
try and avoid this by not recording it for the `window-point` of the
current `selected-window` (since its point is temporarily kept
elsewhere, really), but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

It's not as bad as it looks: this factor 18 is simply because those 18
insertions were collapsed into a single undo entry by
`undo-auto-amalgamate`, so it only applies when the only thing you do is
`self-insert-command`.  In "real life" the impact should be
significantly lower than that.

Of course, another way to reduce the problem is to improve the
amalgamation code so it not only amalgamate the entries for the actual
insertion but also the associated 18 entries that move that one marker.


        Stefan




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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-01 17:54                   ` Yuan Fu
  2021-03-01 18:13                     ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2021-03-01 23:25                     ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-03-02 20:29                       ` Yuan Fu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-03-01 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> Using the same recipe, I got 18, the number of marker entries in each
> undo step.

Since only you can reproduce something pathological, could you please
create the bug report?  Makes no sense if I do it and get questions
about the recipe that only you can answer.

> Also, even if the answer is 1, it is not ok because that shortens the
> number of undo a buffer can record by a factor of n (e.g., 18 in my
> case).

If there are markers, undo probably needs to handle them.  Is the effect
really that drastic?  Aren't markers only put into buffer-undo-list when
undoing, but not for all other editing operations?

Anyway, an important question is why you see 18 different markers in
your buffer.

Thanks,

Michael.



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-01 23:25                     ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-03-02 20:29                       ` Yuan Fu
  2021-03-03  3:40                         ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-03-02 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs



> On Mar 1, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Using the same recipe, I got 18, the number of marker entries in each
>> undo step.
> 
> Since only you can reproduce something pathological, could you please
> create the bug report?  Makes no sense if I do it and get questions
> about the recipe that only you can answer.

Of course, I’ll report it as a bug once we conclude it is one.

> 
>> Also, even if the answer is 1, it is not ok because that shortens the
>> number of undo a buffer can record by a factor of n (e.g., 18 in my
>> case).
> 
> If there are markers, undo probably needs to handle them.  Is the effect
> really that drastic?  Aren't markers only put into buffer-undo-list when
> undoing, but not for all other editing operations?
> 
> Anyway, an important question is why you see 18 different markers in
> your buffer.

Indeed, this shouldn’t be a big problem unless one hold on C-/, which is uncommon in normal editing. I don’t know why I have 18 markers. I just tried again and got 15. Are you using Emacs master?

Yuan


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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-02 20:29                       ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-03-03  3:40                         ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-03-03  3:53                           ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-03-03  3:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> Indeed, this shouldn’t be a big problem unless one hold on C-/, which
> is uncommon in normal editing. I don’t know why I have 18 markers. I
> just tried again and got 15. Are you using Emacs master?

Yes, I usually rebuild daily, and tried with emacs -Q.

Did you use my suggested function to count them?

Regards,

Michael.



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-03  3:40                         ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-03-03  3:53                           ` Michael Heerdegen
  2021-03-03 16:04                             ` Yuan Fu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-03-03  3:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:

> Yes, I usually rebuild daily, and tried with emacs -Q.

Ok...wait.  I tried multiple times.  I "succeeded" in getting higher
values now - 40, 60, such.  Can it be that you need to have multiple
windows in the selected frames for this to happen?  Not winner-mode,
just not only one window.  Or longer pauses between insertions?  Or
using the minibuffer?  Or just repeat several times?  I'm not sure, I
don't see a clear pattern, I get 1 marker and repeat several times and
then suddenly 40.  Do you have a recipe that always reproduces the
problem?

Thanks,

Michael.



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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-03  3:53                           ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2021-03-03 16:04                             ` Yuan Fu
  2021-03-03 22:52                               ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2021-03-03 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Heerdegen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs



> On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:
> 
>> Yes, I usually rebuild daily, and tried with emacs -Q.
> 
> Ok...wait.  I tried multiple times.  I "succeeded" in getting higher
> values now - 40, 60, such.  Can it be that you need to have multiple
> windows in the selected frames for this to happen?  Not winner-mode,
> just not only one window.  Or longer pauses between insertions?  Or
> using the minibuffer?  Or just repeat several times?  I'm not sure, I
> don't see a clear pattern, I get 1 marker and repeat several times and
> then suddenly 40.  Do you have a recipe that always reproduces the
> problem?

Yes, I used your function. I can’t say always, but I’ve tried 3 times and got more than one markers every time. And the reproduce recipe is very simple, I just emacs -q, see a one-window frame, hit q to go to scratch buffer, insert a’s and evaluate your function. For the insertion part, I did C-5 C-0 a, RET, C-SPC, C-p, C-SPC, C-n, M-w, C-y, C-y, C-y, … Nothing special, I think.

So I’m confused now, seems that I can reliably reproduce it but not so much on your machine, hmmm...

Yuan


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* Re: A ton of marker entry in buffer-und-list
  2021-03-03 16:04                             ` Yuan Fu
@ 2021-03-03 22:52                               ` Michael Heerdegen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2021-03-03 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> So I’m confused now, seems that I can reliably reproduce it but not so
> much on your machine, hmmm...

Anyway, all that looks definitely not ok, and we have recipes that work
well enough to reproduce the issue in a very short time, so I went ahead
and reported the issue (you are CC'd), it's now Bug#46908.

Thanks for reporting, you should receive the answers in the bug thread
and of course are invited to add any relevant information or
enlightenments.

Regards,

Michael.




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