From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is defun not executed during load-file? Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 00:57:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0nfesns.fsf@zoho.eu> References: Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:YmFre51NBEFuonXBR5jM21uJdF8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 00:59:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUOr-0000RK-EK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 00:59:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37994 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUOq-0006CL-Gd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUNW-0006A0-Hk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:53474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUNV-00060o-0C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUNT-00098D-6Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 00:57:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130369 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >> Macros are much more difficult to debug... > > `macroexpand` and `macroexpand-1` are your friends. Also, writing macros compared to writing functions typically involves more bugs... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal