From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help,gmane.emacs.erc.general Subject: conventions, ERC `button' / =?utf-8?B?4oCYbm90LWJ1dHRvbuKAmA==?= to documentation, and more [screenshot] Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 19:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0kuczj6.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10091"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-erc@gnu.org To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:y1IB8JM4eu/SK0PkvA63OVK8jyM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 09 19:13:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8qW-0002RM-SS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 19:13:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8qV-0003gf-Kx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:13:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34074) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8q6-0003dZ-JT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8q4-0004M4-TE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mD8q1-0001w1-3n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 19:13:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Followup-To: gmane.emacs.erc.general Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DC_PNG_UNO_LARGO=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132433 gmane.emacs.erc.general:1576 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 1. Meta: For so long a time, there was no traffic on gmane.emacs.erc.general, now it seems some stuff goes on there. I used to post to gmane.emacs.help but crosspost to gmane.emacs.erc.general because it worked, and made sense ERC traffic should go there, however now that there _is_ some very little but still traffic there maybe one shouldn't post on gmane.emacs.help anymore? Not that ERC is off-topic there. 2. What is `this-convention' and ‘this‘? I always used `this-one' - I don't know/remember why, probably I saw someone else do it - but it seems in the on-line (*) help ‘this‘ is what happens, indeed even if you use `the-other-one' [see this example [1]] 3. In ERC, for example `sentence-end-double-space' gets turned into a button that opens up a help buffer, however with the other convention, i.e. ‘sentence-end-without-period’, nothing happens. maybe ‘this’ doesn't get highlighted/buttonized/hyperlinked because people use it for other things than to denote Emacs references? Emacs references? naah! Anyway here [2] is a screenshot [2] which is also attached to this post that shows what happens/how it looks. (*) On-line help means it isn't on paper :) [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/wrap-search.el [2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/erc-docu-button-again.png --=-=-= Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=erc-docu-button-again.png Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAoAAAAHgBAMAAADH/8HXAAAAGFBMVEUAAADStIxzc3MAuQAAmwD6 WvqWlpZkZP9tP8ZsAAAgAElEQVR4nO1dO5LkOLKEVXNXL2nUtjrBmPUFKOAAq4z+pNZbmuu/JIiI 8Ah8+cksZibcujpJEAiATnwYToB0bmDgqfDx8yv8H3a++lPlQr++vjbYeBGcSuASPgjsS5ULfQsC F8Lob8Gt2f38WP9CE/xY/0IMCgtNc43Lx+mXuQzc3axC/NfE7Zz5z62EhprDtWellsK+Pla6Q9IP pD9eAkOg+6K0L4qlxtHfsk8Ehtp0O/m19q1khe0WgREfq0338gTaGvgVmyvWntB0iawSgbEZM6gC vzqBtv5QDdTNT4gr18A1NRh+DwItDhMIXL0tgXFUvZGx/qrR+GMdWRfEfpFH4RBuCfz4+vlWBPbg lW9KHoJB4EEMAgcGBl4V+9SYAjh9ehvzIbdGfDjeCv3E47ltLp71fq6ARxGIPjS7keBP87HMtsS/ 4E36dxD4sZHAjysReEgPdOKJBFtBdGBtUKXn49zkgtP4E92/Zf8LSuaYNIkXtkFt+3YCD+mBFEam 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