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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Jesse Sheidlower <jester@panix.com>, 51277@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51277: 27.1; menu-set-font not loading correct font
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:37:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0i61j8s.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877de6h6u5.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2021 14:59:14 +0200")

>>>>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 14:59:14 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:

    Lars> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
    Lars> then I get something that looks very wrong indeed.  Anybody know a
    Lars> program that understands these things?
    >> 
    >> FC_DEBUG=1 xfce4-terminal --font "Operator Mono SSm:weight=book"
    >> 
    >> will get you fontconfig debug telling you which actual font is
    >> used.

    Lars> Yeah, but surely there must be some other program (other than Emacs)
    Lars> that actually uses this syntax for specifying fonts?  I thought it was
    Lars> supposed to be...  "the way"...

Dunno. Specifying fonts on the command line is apparently passé.

    >> gedit rounds down to the nearest multiple of 100, which equates to >=

    Lars> Huh.

    >> I guess the root cause of all of this is that weʼre mapping
    >> PangoWeights to symbolic constants, which we then pass to
    >> fontconfig. Perhaps we could arrange to pass the weights directly?

    Lars> Indeed, the Pango round trip through symbols is inherently breakable.  I
    Lars> mean, the Gtk chooser knows exactly what font I've selected -- but is
    Lars> there any way to get it to cough up that instead of the Pango weights?

I donʼt think so: Pango is supposed to abstract away from all that.

    Lars> I've looked at the documentation

    Lars> https://docs.gtk.org/Pango/struct.FontDescription.html

    Lars> and nothing really jumped out at me.  I mean, in this case, Pango
    Lars> reports a weight of 330 for book...  but the actual weight in the file is: 

    Lars>         weight: 53(f)(s)

    Lars> So after mapping to symbols and back again, we'll never find that font
    Lars> (because "book" is at 80).

    Lars> But...  what does (f)(s) mean here?

Type double with a strong binding. I once knew what the distinction is
between strong/weak, but like all things fontconfig that knowledge
tends to disappear.

Robert
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 22:08 bug#51277: 27.1; menu-set-font not loading correct font Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-19 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <YW64Fi5/BIFRQ0R5@panix.com>
2021-10-19 12:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19 13:08       ` Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-19 15:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19 16:47           ` Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-19 17:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19 18:08               ` Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-19 18:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19 18:17                   ` Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-20  8:50                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-20 11:30                       ` Jesse Sheidlower
2021-10-20 12:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-20 15:02                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-20 15:12                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 15:20                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-20 16:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21  2:13                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  2:11                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  7:40                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-21 12:59                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 15:37                                   ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2021-10-22 14:27                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 12:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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