From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contradictiory directions Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87k0g6mivu.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211211035614.15517.53830@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211211035616.984DD20A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee6j4ty4.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mz4o70.fsf@yahoo.com> <83k0gbr0dm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24r33bn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6h5tap6.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufbu7jg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y24nr6nk.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ntz0t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk6mjlm.fsf@gnus.org> <877dc6tjz0.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9200"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 08:46:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxP00-0002E5-It for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:46:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34554 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxOzz-0007NH-84 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:46:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxOdR-0005v2-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=39406 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxOdJ-00032l-IC; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:23:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Q+F9v5r7UGQDme6fzdqNUxLDujT/YFi8lWV0rSYJ4Cc=; b=sHNWqZRqs1N/BhXxEoVOs9+kEJ Jz6t02UlML721UNRUK+FzRnLFObgHse8BM7j3PhXEtQpvT+5YAkOHRe5wHACqVi2Bfv0EQ6wNSgMP Kq2FsWYoc9LscRQCmhemniXDXmVF/gR8zT41F6N/uSteDdkmHsnRHSPLZAjVK3BxLiyc=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxOdC-0002hI-Uu; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:23:21 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEWwjWtxQT+fUEzR saT49O3///+dfHtVAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UMDwcUDUKeYKsAAAGRSURBVDjLfZIB YsMgCEUVcwDjLqCYAzjJAbra+59pH026dHWjasUX+BFizNzs5Cz+CcIUUB8TYEeyWao/xKPxhjtI 66t1/wrC9YmowNvoiWMki10ICe4AkZA4es82Ugwp2XQCNjjpgA2nlNgPDZ+sPwAZZmtPECydIJg4 wKnBAIGtD0j1AsyIQApP11Ts8VZhTWHlAHUOIwJ30xbQccFQjwtCT2tUMB3DPghhAK4smOIUiC7L Ud3FCKzgZ5w0pw6eEgVwdjhiFvzvpWHfToABkR5cMOBCQ4aw6TtXXjpYZq0dYuUdPNTktIfsD9GT rwEu1nZxUyCtIWoCbjidgdaPO3gK672xtNykA+JXs8wr728g6Vx5+TKNcl3yPW+u1lxdZKoun2B3 krdM91wkW1vNAJxZsuScuWZUhy6Aar4BUN3QSbpXOUCstx4BwAD1AA/Sjg+Qn6C/LsSlg09Vq/Ve tg4YX+LWXI5cI0sspOIKbOKohS7jpqGvPZUxWjpFPwXYf1VXK4mOYH3vx2H/AJnb5zdoRIS3tuUh TAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMi0xNVQwNzoyMDoxMyswMDowMC/FjEoAAAAldEVY dGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTItMTVUMDc6MjA6MTMrMDA6MDBemDT2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Scritti Politti's _Cupid & Psyche 85_: "The Word Girl" In-Reply-To: <877dc6tjz0.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:17:55 +0800") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281981 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Who do I listen to..? Eli and I are the maintainers. > It is already confusing enough to participate in > the development of a large piece of software in my spare time as it is, > so please don't confuse me further with contradictory instructions. Yes, it's confusing when other people are trying to give you orders, but you can just disregard them. > It's still based on looking at the names of modules: proprietary modules > could easily be renamed so that their filenames are the same as the free > ones, and vice versa: it is not concrete at all. > > The PCRE and csvtable modules are also in the public domain. > Proprietary versions of them could be created ino the future. There are no guarantees in this world. Anybody could be making proprietary versions of absolutely all modules Emacs is loading, including libc.so, and there's no technical ways of stopping Emacs from loading them. > BTW, the term "allowlist" is confusing. It took me a while to guess its > meaning. Why not use the industry-standard term "whitelist" instead? The industry standard is allowlist/blocklist. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no