From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Awful completion buffer behaviour Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:35:32 +0800 Message-ID: <87k0fwoj8b.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <878rwdtjum.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878rwdtjum.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o858yf4w.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6gspzmn.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28946"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 14:37:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n01nq-0007IY-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:37:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55908 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01np-00018N-Ec for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:37:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01mZ-0008JQ-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:35:52 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic308-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.31]:42206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n01mX-0000qS-4e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:35:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640180207; bh=svrGaaq5gEL6MwUac9umAiKwTpNIC3pvVJRk3JAY6As=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=uLdsvFAB+ahM2PBmzBaxSuWd4ENPrs0vt/rH92P0ecRPYX85FQJmuky58CWetYCm0CQibpAuFOIrzyy6/IWgNZ+WCZURB6BSLUU2CvBusF4qytfA7LJs6NmtANyxaD0Mx/yMoaZYbaHi/A80CvaGc6VkrncI6kddSwdj0Zymy7Qd/hOEpaXaScWG8tbTYUibB4MPfBe2DYqnFGjrKbVF+jiGsayXK1YBMXZavfxG8ZpaSVBkcLi+otviPUo78o5a18BjyxPim6U0/04d4VQxLArEa1IKIbDVDj/sHSWXFQ0wcOvltbjRaZgzfIiHtBncG86fhu35LsEkRhmNrAk9fQ== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1640180207; bh=2+r7+renTZMXUn7Kolhlx0wquUr2b40MVfIDCD43rCu=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=IBLMOAnkAe1W48CR06f9qCbSlqYKyeuYKQM7viwn25LhZQSlEt5JL7Go46+55rIwm6x1OxrYjxY2eu++WzteLQ3HBtrWAFN9JCLL0lCQr8g14oFgyyeIAHpfG7FieGCK/lpbBAWmi5xaoq9jGyraqWox0viBdaERCIaRkFQpWzwRPaZWlyU1QMrN8itc++xs5u7NC0Omdt7BUhicuj2yvDtdclV4qgcy5Qq4ZKZDjAfGkHU4bBb0OkQFnUnw7smoV6Dy1rTzmbdk9wP2GyGovrT3pk6JM8lm8gAjovthQht8QO7TQoJ9PPvWw2QWbtya5bP/Lu9+qU8QMp3ltNYnQQ== X-YMail-OSG: umXfHzAVM1lzmKpHYrttimZvJjDIYGWcQ4EVHY6tF6hGUaZ46uSF61sweUxLxqx 5maqyE2gAz7X7L36ryaFvq8NvJC9UG94VMseyUjs1Mr4NBHxZAvsalo6unfsETClb6PTA5dnD_cT tIQAnccimh3WZsOG5wzS3JNLfzHqKoBdwk_nIh1FYx3tMLok77Mstqr3nnawrAfXMjcGBFn8NYVx ZCB5RjKcAKHoeJAGzjS0K8_df9PkUF0RUsAx1j2LkFPrG3XqPUYPVLAWhOQ43Lx9FK2938WOdX54 YB5.PAgSEspuWMa2w2pS.gVJstckFNZrrqR13a1NbcV6Pba5SA5a87RhTkNMQYdPs1thjdlz1oh3 COG4rJlq1rmwVVHy2qskwxI_.L14QOPls4OCUcdxDo44hWUKlO3AqHbRqkHYA0ReA8PLa7eFa6ic sdAybHYjURmOrsLpnBMMhvtg_gWp1XljY2Q5Xuvp2VQQArxSD7F1n2lUmq4qOYfxijFnEELzfHLd pYjL2E4zEzMdOwRPEnUZbubVbN2Ky_0B5IIqwHOtc51J4ZP3APO.Zbz57FY3_hj5hYo0pFCI1S8O Yt_cq2PUsUjQOcyUoWZZkYY.A6U4CDZFZpT.5kYD6B9nkfizC4_58YVmE4R7ZAPSnfxmXf4_LnI5 3Tlw2_lb17XYIGqBH1v9iAB6UbYbdU4RQh821iAVU9TqDnqxjRCw5igLmmv_MLJE8qwsZyeH1DEs GdXCkx1_BNUnWVKCwKWlMnQw5SV9c42AOs9.74GJuOS39MeZrSVHeWEznDlfn1Iu27yxcytZXQPO dJFurl9Cst0PsXjllW0ENbW8cIpkfiz_ToGAjWHyv9 X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:36:47 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode509.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9b0f12db37c5682a46b3726a5246f4d8; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:35:37 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87a6gspzmn.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:56:00 +0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic308-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282732 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> I agree that this new behavior is an unpleasant surprise for me. >> >> I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the month-long experiment >> with turning this on by default. Is it to decide whether it will stay >> on in Emacs 29? If so, the experiment can be terminated now: we will >> not make this the default, certainly not in Emacs 29, and maybe not >> even in Emacs 30. It is too radical departure of age-old Emacs >> behavior in the default completion commands. > > Thanks, will you mind if I install a change that documents the option > in the NEWS entry and changes its default value to nil now? > > Thanks. Oops, I pushed that by accident when pushing a fix to pgtkterm.c, but I think it's appropriate anyway, so I'm not going to revert it unless someone says so. Thanks.