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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283700 Archived-At: dick writes: > TC> In fact, I would go so far as to say many developers make very poor > TC> lawyers. > > Well, which is it? You disclaim legal know-how while simultaneously > claiming to know what it takes to be a lawyer. > TO keep it simple, legal advice from developers is worth about as much as programming advice from lawyers. Any arguments from developers on this list regarding how the FSF should or should not manage the legal question of copyright are pointless. I also agree with ELi and think this topic should be redirected to the tangents list as well, so won't respond further.