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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
@ 2019-02-05 14:10 N. Jackson
  2019-02-05 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2019-02-05 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 34331

After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the
paste.  Instead, it only undoes the final M-y.  One needs to undo
over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste operation
was begun.


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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 14:10 bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y N. Jackson
@ 2019-02-05 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
  2019-02-05 16:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2019-02-05 14:44 ` N. Jackson
  2019-02-05 15:40 ` Michael Heerdegen
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2019-02-05 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 34331

On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@gmail.com> wrote:

> After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the
> paste.

I disagree.  That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too
much.  To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de
GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE  1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7
"And now for something completely different."





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 14:10 bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y N. Jackson
  2019-02-05 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2019-02-05 14:44 ` N. Jackson
  2019-02-05 15:40 ` Michael Heerdegen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: N. Jackson @ 2019-02-05 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 34331

merge 14693 34331
quit

Sorry, this is a duplicate of a pre-existing bug report [1]. I've
attempted to merge this bug with the previous one.

[I did actually look for a pre-existing bug report before I began, and
opened two potential candidates (including 14693) in my browser -- then
got distracted and never read them!]


[1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=14693





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 14:10 bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y N. Jackson
  2019-02-05 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
  2019-02-05 14:44 ` N. Jackson
@ 2019-02-05 15:40 ` Michael Heerdegen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2019-02-05 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: N. Jackson; +Cc: 34331

"N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@gmail.com> writes:

> After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the
> paste.  Instead, it only undoes the final M-y.  One needs to undo
> over-and-over-again to get back to the state before the paste operation
> was begun.

FWIW, with smart-yank.el in Gnu Elpa you can hit M-y twice in very fast
succession to remove the yank no matter how often you have yanked.  I
say it to mention the alternative approach (to using undo), not to
advertise.

Michael.





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2019-02-05 16:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2019-02-05 17:11     ` Andreas Schwab
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-02-05 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: nljlistbox2, 34331

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100
> Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the
> > paste.
> 
> I disagree.  That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too
> much.  To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w.

I agree.  Both use cases are valid, so if we change something, we
should do it in a way that doesn't close the door for any of them.





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 16:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-02-05 17:11     ` Andreas Schwab
  2019-02-05 17:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2019-02-05 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: nljlistbox2, 34331

On Feb 05 2019, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
>> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 15:22:04 +0100
>> Cc: 34331@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> On Feb 05 2019, "N. Jackson" <nljlistbox2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > After pasting with C-y M-y M-y M-y ... , undo should (I think) undo the
>> > paste.
>> 
>> I disagree.  That would make it awkward to undo if you typed one M-y too
>> much.  To remove the whole paste you can also use C-w.
>
> I agree.  Both use cases are valid, so if we change something, we
> should do it in a way that doesn't close the door for any of them.

Actually, you *can* already easily undo a M-y by typing M-- M-y, thus I
retract my objection.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de
GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE  1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7
"And now for something completely different."





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 17:11     ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2019-02-05 17:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-01-29 15:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2019-02-05 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: nljlistbox2, 34331

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
> Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com,  34331@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2019 18:11:37 +0100
> 
> Actually, you *can* already easily undo a M-y by typing M-- M-y, thus I
> retract my objection.

I don't retract mine, sorry.  Undo should also work in that case,
because undo is a general command, and it's IMO a nuisance to have to
invoke some other command in specific situations instead of undo.





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* bug#34331: 27.0.50; Undo too granular after C-y M-y M-y ...
  2019-02-05 17:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-01-29 15:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-01-29 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, 34331, nljlistbox2

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> I don't retract mine, sorry.  Undo should also work in that case,
> because undo is a general command, and it's IMO a nuisance to have to
> invoke some other command in specific situations instead of undo.

I think the conclusion here is that we don't want to change how undo
works in this case -- it would make undo less predictable if it undid
the entire yank instead of the `M-y', so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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