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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294675 Archived-At: Akib Azmain Turja writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Stefan Monnier writes: >> >>> Actually, in a sense it's pretty easy: just make an exception for the >>> rule that all code needs to have its copyright assigned to the FSF. >> >> Sounds good to me, FWIW. >> >>> But even if we do make such an exception, having a copy of Magit in >>> `emacs.git` would add extra maintenance burden to keep that copy in sync >>> with the one maintained elsewhere. So for administrative reasons, it's >>> probably preferable to keep it outside of `emacs.git`. >> >> I'm not sure I understand the objection. Is it not just a question of >> popping something like this in a shell script that runs every N days: >> >> git clone magit >> cp magit/*.el lisp/magit >> rm -rf magit >> git commit -a -m "; Auto-update Magit" >> git push > > Yeah, I also think it isn't a too big problem. I also think we should > take the portable packages (i.e. the packages which don't depend on > Emacs internals, e.g. term, artist, comint (maybe), doctor) out of the > main Emacs repository and make them available through GNU ELPA (while > still keeping a copy in main Emacs repository). That way Emacs 28.1 > users (and possibly Emacs 27.2 users) will get the latest updates to > those packages. > >> >> If we want to be a bit more conservative, we have code in NonGNU ELPA to >> check out the latest tagged package version. > > The last time I checked, the Magit version hosted on NonGNU ELPA was > completely broken. I've been using the version from NonGNU ELPA since it has been added (last year), and there haven't been any issues.