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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296030 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:16:55 -0400, Richard Stallman sa= id: Richard> Is there a way we can systematically log all attempts to conne= ct to anything Richard> on the net, to make sure we know what all of them do? strace --follow-forks --trace=3D%net emacs If you want to do it within Emacs you=CA=BCd need to write some code (and it wouldn=CA=BCt cover subprocesses). > IOW, shouldn't you rather be using something like > torsocks emacs > if you care about privacy? Richard> That seems a little extreme and inflexible. If you want to be sure you=CA=BCre using torsocks for everything, that=CA= =BCs what you need to do (although I haven=CA=BCt checked if torsock=CA=BCs LD_PRELOAD tricks get passed on to Emacs=CA=BC child processes, so maybe even that is not enough). Robert --=20