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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297668 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > off-by-two: there=CA=BCs also the "I want syntax highlighting and > indentation to work out of the box, don=CA=BCt bother me with > implementation details" camp, which kind of implies that we should > turn on tree-sitter by default if it=CA=BCs available. That's camp 1. I fall somewhere in between. My hope is that Emacs and major modes will still support being run without tree-sitter.