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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299654 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar >> Cc: Richard Stallman , stefankangas@gmail.com, >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:01:24 +0200 >>=20 >> I am objecting against the assumption Melpa equals bad. I can understand >> the issue with some of it's packages or even the place of distribution >> but it hard to replace a platform like Github for the network effect it >> has. > > No one says MELPA equals bad, and Github is not the issue here. We Than I misunderstood RMS when he said: >>Please do not encourage people to load packages from MELPA. > just avoid recommending people to use MELPA because doing so could > accidentally cause someone to install non-free packages, or packages > that proliferate or require non-free programs. It's a preference > thing, not a damnation. I wasn't aware of packages in MELPA that do such a thing, especially about non-free packages. >From my knowledge Melpa doesn't contain those packages nomore than Elpa already does (Microsoft Exchange support, excorporate). Can you name such packages? In the end people either can use Emacs on day to day work where they are forced to use such systems that interact with non-free services or not. Br, Bj=C3=B6rn