From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62614: Tramp attempts to remove lock file with 'remote-file-name-inhibit-locks t Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2023 12:30:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87jzytqmva.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87pm8mv2ex.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <87pm8lqs69.fsf@gmx.de> <874jpx1fn4.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <87mt3pcmv3.fsf@gmx.de> <87zg7pz2yx.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <87v8idz2qc.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8875"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 62614@debbugs.gnu.org To: Yuri D'Elia Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 03 12:31:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjHTF-00028X-FZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 03 Apr 2023 12:30:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v8idz2qc.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> (Yuri D'Elia's message of "Mon, 03 Apr 2023 12:17:06 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wTt/fnHwbDRSFoHz897SX88qYvJgBhvVomG0yqDD7fCEiKodigp KeqNCOkWcPCMLnSbsI/JwcOBmbXUGrbASZfZo4Zcv6urXOFyw3w44gCEmEH7jpV0IK+uuOw qHsHSalxvQw1akrQMYjrnYTsJ808uy4dYKavBJ1Zsl0sDYRHZ12Zq2viaPYY+HWyjabX553 ylUuWBSJsvxqWz4tC33SQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:W56LviNFSIo=;Q3ZzkuOYmiYNvECv8pr5/y3is1+ r7ZoLh7SjYtJZb7jxSbszIkSKzJzUXiEHjnrV1j43rau4PXWbI5UTRmFyRm+O/TQViDyehlp7 mcvQpneelIf9Ayi9oP5QuZXA5Eb3m7jhcmseXNV6k0SzKQDRBCN+z4PX2Op5OIsKP8PcCe/CZ AQqQAlPz+AmUdi6ElkktzktHqh1v8BJVJ/VvdmrE2qIaPENGiunNf+lWFtiQ1pdVtADMCVYNq IJ+rM724/E5P7ftmuvu8VV8L7SgWgYzQoyt4f41ulDSZxrIhQltmLsrL9EPB0E723p1JjTwgs xu6JJn3mMcDOQXBSCbAwq08WOzNqaN+tdWrbGDRojYcJmaJiH2p5x4nKnLSNFvjg8LL83ojdS +YBGDqfbfOAxIOtZ+Gc6s7qUsm6PuE15JIGNNkIYFNw6FeXkCgbXJu8ziB6yl2Ij9IhRHGT/F JNEU3ENCvGApnpufS62YBLqMxD/WxhSlNWvh2M379FoSOQTAy+oTYqKsBdYrQeGSB4WnTebuD QHh7mvLG6r0+6MhsuHm5I67HcFOu5sUjIn5WZiDFcM5I/E4EnKaSvGVKiaL4AoDLViZ5dVoXI +6CUNMogVRRE2qqeWsiEUCzZfMXA7Yr5SPadIKAMXw4u7bpKY4H5zxR9HpRa1QvmltNsoyOGl 4qRbfajW/bCbeEiWYCxZgTp9Y+mczBkW7A1aUo4eZ87DpOf9nVQmouYhCRJtBlpwOpWEd35Ss uBoW0M5G848qV9ArSkJGyrHHESzKbqrbRd8XLJDjyzUxoAhaQJ4D4BjswdQ+atkiGlqaksx4 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259169 Archived-At: Yuri D'Elia writes: Hi Yuri, >> I fully agree with you that it should follow the behavior of local files >> too, so I wouldn't change anything here _just_ for tramp. > > Thinking loudly, if we inhibit lock creation, what's your opinion on the > unlock warning (for the generic local case)? > > IMHO if lock creation is inhibited, we could still attempt to remove the > lock to keep the old behavior, but then the warning shouldn't be > generated as you don't expect the lock to exist in the normal case. That might be an option. But it wouldn't fix your use case, where you try to avoid the file locking machinery for remote files at all. Best regards, Michael.