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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309669 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: Hi Eli, > Here's a list of features that I think we want to preserve: > > . submit a bug report via email > . receive bug reports and related discussions via email > . give instructions to the tracker via email: > - close/reopen/merge issues > - add/remove tags from issues > - mark a closed bug with the Emacs version where it is fixed > . continue discussion of an issue even after it is closed > > If I missed something important, Michael and Stefan, please add to > this list. Sounds OK. >> Though at their scale it's likely to result in too much spam anyway. > > GNU mailing lists have a very efficient system for blocking spam. Whatever system is taken, you'll need ML moderators. Volunteers, committed for years. >> > If they aren't, then which capabilities _are_ important to have that >> > we don't have on debbugs? >> >> Just the common bug tracker stuff, mostly related to Web UI (allowing >> one to easily read and join a discussion, subscribe to it, unsubscribe, >> syntax-highlighted code snippets, linking of issues between themselves, >> links between issues and commits, closing issues from commits, assignin= g >> issues to specific developers, ...). Also better working search and a >> very visible page "latest active issues/discussions". > > If those are the main points, perhaps we should also explore the > possibility of adding them to debbugs? The Guix people have written their own Web UI on top of debbugs.gnu.org, . Perhaps you can ask for their view. Best regards, Michael.